Trump for President (Read 19462 times)

matt0137

Trump for President
« on: June 16, 2015, 08:57:17 PM »
Anyone think he stands a chance?

...he is a big 2a supporter based on interviews in the past.

mauidog

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 09:05:01 PM »
Anyone think he stands a chance?

...he is a big 2a supporter based on interviews in the past.

Here's how he represented his views in 2000:

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Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns

It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. Democrats want to confiscate all guns,
which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans
walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000

For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet
technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000
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An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

passivekinetic

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 09:14:16 PM »
Did not know that was his stance on the 2A.

My dislike for him has gone down. A bit.
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ImKu

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 07:01:02 AM »

All over my social media feed as soon as he announced.
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

Inspector

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 09:39:12 AM »
Traditionally, candidates like Trump that don't have a political background won't make it to the Republican nomination. So I wouldn't worry about him getting to that point. I just hope he doesn't decide to run as an Independent after he loses. He could potentially pull votes away from Hilary's opposition. And that would not be a good thing.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

matt0137

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2015, 10:07:54 AM »
Traditionally, candidates like Trump that don't have a political background won't make it to the Republican nomination. So I wouldn't worry about him getting to that point. I just hope he doesn't decide to run as an Independent after he loses. He could potentially pull votes away from Hilary's opposition. And that would not be a good thing.

I do agree with you on both points - especially the part about him running as an independent.

For me - I'm so disappointed with all politicians that NOT having previous political background is a plus for me. Candidates like Trump, Carson, and Fiorina interest me for that very fact. I also like Trump's no BS approach. It's the same thing I like about Chris Christie without Christie's moderate (even democratic-leaning) positions on several topics. I don't think he will end up the nominee and I'm not saying he's my top pick, but we could certainly do much worse.

Inspector

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2015, 10:28:59 AM »
I do agree with you on both points - especially the part about him running as an independent.

For me - I'm so disappointed with all politicians that NOT having previous political background is a plus for me. Candidates like Trump, Carson, and Fiorina interest me for that very fact. I also like Trump's no BS approach. It's the same thing I like about Chris Christie without Christie's moderate (even democratic-leaning) positions on several topics. I don't think he will end up the nominee and I'm not saying he's my top pick, but we could certainly do much worse.
I tend to lean the same way you do regarding candidates that don't necessarily have a political background because I am very much a Conservative fiscally. I like what Trump said about fixing some of our social programs as well as bringing back our economy. Unfortunately, I think we need someone who also is going to be able to play the game (and be strong) when it comes to foreign policies. And that is where most of the non political candidates fall apart for me. While I think we should build that wall between us and Mexico I also believe it is in our best interest to not disassociate ourselves from our neighbor like Trump was saying. Because Mexico could allow our enemies right up to our back door. And we could get screwed without lube. And as some here know, that would hurt!  :rofl: Having Mexico as our friend helps put a buffer between our border and South America. We need to deal with Iran and Russia with a strong hand and the might of our strong military. Whether it is going back into places we don't want to be, or just rattle our sabre a bit to see if they back down. We also need to treat our allies like our best friends and show unity amongst us to the rest of the world. I just don't see Trump or Fiorina being able to lead us down these slippery slopes. I feel it takes more of a statesman than these 2 are.

With all this said I do like Fiorina a bit more than Trump. I believe she is a bit more of a statesman (statesperson?) than he is. And a better leader. But I have to say I think so far for me I like (In no particular order) Pataki, Jindal and Walker. I hope one of these 3 will get the nod. JMHO  :shaka:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Q

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 10:30:11 AM »
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Inspector

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 10:33:31 AM »
I'm disappointed that 99% of politicians are lawyers.

We need more doctors, more scientists and more soldiers in congress.

Also, it needs to be a service again, not a career.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Career Politicians are what we have. Civil Servants is what we want.
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matt0137

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 11:00:09 AM »
I tend to lean the same way you do regarding candidates that don't necessarily have a political background because I am very much a Conservative fiscally. I like what Trump said about fixing some of our social programs as well as bringing back our economy. Unfortunately, I think we need someone who also is going to be able to play the game (and be strong) when it comes to foreign policies. And that is where most of the non political candidates fall apart for me. While I think we should build that wall between us and Mexico I also believe it is in our best interest to not disassociate ourselves from our neighbor like Trump was saying. Because Mexico could allow our enemies right up to our back door. And we could get screwed without lube. And as some here know, that would hurt!  :rofl: Having Mexico as our friend helps put a buffer between our border and South America. We need to deal with Iran and Russia with a strong hand and the might of our strong military. Whether it is going back into places we don't want to be, or just rattle our sabre a bit to see if they back down. We also need to treat our allies like our best friends and show unity amongst us to the rest of the world. I just don't see Trump or Fiorina being able to lead us down these slippery slopes. I feel it takes more of a statesman than these 2 are.

With all this said I do like Fiorina a bit more than Trump. I believe she is a bit more of a statesman (statesperson?) than he is. And a better leader. But I have to say I think so far for me I like (In no particular order) Pataki, Jindal and Walker. I hope one of these 3 will get the nod. JMHO  :shaka:

I've heard many people make similar comments about lack of foreign policy experience (not against Trump particularly, but against any "outsider" candidate.) Let me, respectfully, offer a different viewpoint: Historically, we elect more governors than senators. Governors have little to no foreign policy experience except possibly border states, but then it's really dealing with Mexico and not other international affairs. Even senators may have little foreign policy experience. Obama is a good example, but I could say the same about most of the candidates. Besides Lindsey Graham and Hillary - who else has had much foreign policy experience? Trump and Fiorina have conducted business internationally and while that doesn't necessarily make you an expert in national foreign policy, but it does count for something and I do think it could give you a leg up on a governor or junior senator.

I get what you're saying about Fiorina being the better statesman and I like her as a candidate, but I don't mind having a strong leader in the white house that isn't afraid to ruffle some feathers, tells it like it is, and quits worrying about being PC. If we want to see Washington reformed to any extent, I think it's going to take a firebrand like a Trump to shake up that town. We've had those kinds of people in the white house before, it was just a really long time ago.

All that said - I'd take anyone over Hillary so whatever shakes out, I will fully support her challenger.

matt0137

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2015, 11:12:31 AM »
I'm disappointed that 99% of politicians are lawyers.

We need more doctors, more scientists and more soldiers in congress.

Also, it needs to be a service again, not a career.

Agreed!
The good news - that leaves several GOP candidates to support. Unless I'm mistaken, the following are not attorneys:
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
Mike Huckabee
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Donald Trump

Q

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2015, 11:29:47 AM »
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Kingkeoni

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2015, 11:50:59 AM »
True, but it's not about who is most qualified, but who will get the most media attention and backing of the establishment.

I'm sure if Kim Kardashian's ass ran for office, it would win by a landslide because people are such idiots

 :D
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matt0137

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2015, 12:02:43 PM »
True, but it's not about who is most qualified, but who will get the most media attention and backing of the establishment.

I'm sure if Kim Kardashian's ass ran for office, it would win by a landslide because people are such idiots

It's not that far-fetched....we have an ass as president now. Why not another?

ren

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2015, 12:05:52 PM »
It's not that far-fetched....we have an ass as president now. Why not another?

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so which is bigger?
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Q

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2015, 12:07:13 PM »
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causa mortis

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2015, 12:36:59 PM »
Well, Obama is a black ass and Kim Kartrashian likes blacks in her ass, so they share some similarities.

matt0137

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2015, 01:59:51 PM »
Well, Obama is a black ass and Kim Kartrashian likes blacks in her ass, so they share some similarities.

Wow! What started off as a thoughtful conversation about presidential politics and foreign policy has devolved into trash talking reality stars and their anal sex practices.

I blame Q     >:D

mauidog

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2015, 04:01:47 PM »
Wow! What started off as a thoughtful conversation about presidential politics and foreign policy has devolved into trash talking reality stars and their anal sex practices.

I blame Q     >:D

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

macsak

Re: Trump for President
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2015, 05:14:35 PM »