here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns! (Read 24020 times)

macsak

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2015, 08:26:26 PM »
and the illuminati is hiding Michael Jackson and Tupac on an island in the Bermuda triangle. 

if these are "carefully crafted incidents", they're really crappy at it, because it aint moving the needle other than temporary spikes in interest.

michael jackson and tupac live in cave with elvis, janis joplin, hendrix and marley

xer 21

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2015, 09:22:08 PM »
michael jackson and tupac live in cave with elvis, janis joplin, hendrix and marley


They had Amy Winehouse killed though for real though.  Janis thought she was going to drink her whiskey stash.

mamalukino

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2015, 02:36:25 PM »
CHURCH WASN’T FIRST TARGET? Friend Says Roof Settled for Church Because it was a Gun Free Zone


http://girlsjustwannahaveguns.com/church-wasnt-first-target-friend-says-roof-settled-for-church-because-it-was-a-gun-free-zone/
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robtmc

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2015, 08:39:41 AM »
Not getting the traction they want has not stopped the liberals hysteria and screeching for the government to do something. 

Obunga himself keeps harping on it and uses these shooting in the same manner.

HiCarry

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2015, 09:44:12 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/index.html

"By telling authorities his aim, Roof admitted he attacked unarmed civilians for political purposes in an act of terror."

So the answer to this, by Obama, is to disarm all civilians?! :crazy: :grrr: >:(

Not all civilians, just those not in law enforcement....

And, as is so typical of the MSM, they fail to mention that he also considered carrying out his rampage at a school, but apparently reconsidered when he realized the school had armed guards.

robtmc

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2015, 10:45:32 AM »
"In addition, these incidents have almost tripled under his Presidency (2009-2103) when compared to years prior. "

http://cuttingthroughthefog.blogspot.com/2015/06/obamas-record-on-mass-shootings.html

Curiouser and curiouser, the murder rate is dropping, but politically useful mass shootings have somehow tripled under a pResident dedicated to gun control.

And someone wants to scoff that these clowns might be up to something?  Perhaps you forget Obunga's clear statement:

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."
« Last Edit: June 22, 2015, 11:21:26 AM by robtmc »

HiCarry

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2015, 04:17:25 PM »
"In addition, these incidents have almost tripled under his Presidency (2009-2103) when compared to years prior. "

http://cuttingthroughthefog.blogspot.com/2015/06/obamas-record-on-mass-shootings.html

Curiouser and curiouser, the murder rate is dropping, but politically useful mass shootings have somehow tripled under a pResident dedicated to gun control.

And someone wants to scoff that these clowns might be up to something?  Perhaps you forget Obunga's clear statement:

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."

Neither mass shootings or active shooter incidents have seen any statistically relevant increase over the last 30 plus years. The most recent FBI report, based on a study by two criminologists appear to have had the data manipulated for political purposes. The authors of the study blamed the media for getting it wrong (primarily misrepresenting all active shooter situations with "mass killings.") but then go on to defend their choice of time period for the study because 1999 was when police changed their response tactics from establishing a perimeter and awaiting specialized services to small immediate entry teams. But that, IMHO, is bogus. They choose the time period because they knew that data extrapolated over the longer time frame would have averaged out the numbers and that in 2012 there was an unusually high number of events.

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/2014/10/the-incredibly-flawed-fbi-study-on-active-shooters/

http://www.acjs.org/uploads/file/ACJS_Today_May_2015.pdf

robtmc

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2015, 06:23:30 PM »
Strange whichever way you take it, since the FBI, like all the alphabet agencies, has been heavily politicized by Fearful leader. 

So which is it, lots more mass shootings, or bogus data to make it look like it for political leverage?  He admitted he was sneaking around to the Brady people.

Does not matter, six of one, etc.  The bastard is dirty and treacherous.  I put nothing past him in his efforts to destroy this country and his political opponents. 

mauidog

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2015, 08:48:40 PM »
What bothers me is, they say more guns equal more homicides.

Why doesn't the logical conclusion that more homicides equals more guns get discussed?  If I live in a relatively safe neighborhood, I might opt to not own a gun.  When the gangs move in, the druggies start hanging at the local 7-11, and burglaries are on the rise, I might decide it's time to get a gun.

The biggest problem with ALL these gun stats is they paint a picture of numbers, then leave it up to the reader to draw their own conclusions.  There have been no scientific studies to prove a causal effect between increased gun ownership and increased violence.  All they can show is a CORRELATION between the numbers.

Until we look at the root causes, all these stats are just so much debate material which is designed to do one thing:  to either support or fight a total ban on guns.  A ban is the only logical solution if you truly believe an increase in gun violence numbers shows a causal relationship.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

aieahound

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2015, 09:21:00 AM »
Charleston church gunman wanted AR reads the headline.

Really !
They found a way to drag ARs into this ?

http://news.yahoo.com/charleston-church-gunman-wanted-ar-15-firearm-police-171627237.html

This is getting ridiculous. He could have bought an AR for the price of his Glock 45

ren

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2015, 09:56:19 AM »
Charleston church gunman wanted AR reads the headline.

Really !
They found a way to drag ARs into this ?

http://news.yahoo.com/charleston-church-gunman-wanted-ar-15-firearm-police-171627237.html

This is getting ridiculous. He could have bought an AR for the price of his Glock 45

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/us/charleston-church-shooting-main/index.html

It's a coordinated effort by the news to prop up calls for Obama's planned resurrection of the assault weapons ban
Deeds Not Words

robtmc

Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2015, 11:11:15 AM »
It's a coordinated effort by the news to prop up calls for Obama's planned resurrection of the assault weapons ban
Surprise, surprise!

But some here will bleat that these convenient shootings that keep coming along just in time to resurrect drooping gun control efforts are coincidence.

Never let a crisis go to waste...corollary?  Create one if you have to?

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Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2015, 03:39:41 PM »
I find this interesting!



and the guy is a black guy too!
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Re: here we go again...its not about crazy its about those guns!
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2015, 03:43:27 PM »
^^^so fake.

the government could never pull off something like this and then somehow manage to get only a handful of conspiracy nuts to figure it out.