Homeless and CCW (Read 9802 times)

Drakiir84

"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

Tom_G

Re: Homeless and CCW
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2015, 12:10:50 PM »
Back to the original question, it seems to me that a right is a right.  Argue exceptions where you must, but stripping someone of a right because they don't have a place to hang their hat (if the have one)?  I'm not seeing any way to justify that.
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

mauidog

Re: Homeless and CCW
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2015, 01:34:11 PM »
Back to the original question, it seems to me that a right is a right.  Argue exceptions where you must, but stripping someone of a right because they don't have a place to hang their hat (if the have one)?  I'm not seeing any way to justify that.

In Hawaii, a right is NOT a right.  The government has decided that your individual rights are not being violated as long as you can still exercise them when and where they say you can.  These "places to store" laws for firearms in Hawaii are no different than "Free Speech Zones" set up to control you while you exercise your "freedom".

Pragmatically, someone on the street has more of a need to be able to defend themselves from robbery, sex crimes and violence, and a firearm would suit that purpose.  If you don't have four walls, a roof and a door with a lock to protect yourself from anyone seeking to do you harm, all the more reason a gun would be useful.

On the other hand, logic says if you can't carry a weapon on your person in public without a mythical CCW permit, how would you protect the weapon that protects you?  A safe on wheels defeats its purpose, and you can't realistically expect to stay in your tent, bus stop, or overpass all day/everyday to watch over your belongings. 

Yes, a right is a right, but only if you don't live in a state governed by the left.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Rocky

“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Drakiir84

"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

Rocky

Re: Homeless and CCW
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2015, 01:19:15 PM »
 :love:
3 posts up Rocky... same story lol.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt