purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii (Read 12864 times)

gtrpnoyracer

Need help guys.
So I want to purchase a handgun from an ffl dealer in the mainland and have it shipped to a local ffl dealer here on oahu
What is the process when doing all of this?
Do I
Purchase the gun from the Mainland FFL Dealer
Give the local ffl dealer the Mainland FFL Dealers info (fax number) to fax FFL License verification
Once that clears, Mainland dealer ships to local ffl dealer here on oahu and handgun is held in store.
Although once purchased, is receipt needed to bring to HPD or not?
Also what do i need from the Mainland FFL Dealer to bring to HPD?
If Receipt is NOT NEEDED, do i just need a piece of paper with all the handgun specs (barrel length, serial number, make, model, and caliber)?
Lmk fam, Thanks

mauidog

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 12:19:27 AM »
Internet sellers usually offer a 3-5 day inspection for refund.  So, you need to:

1.  Get a quote for shipping to Hawaii.  Sometimes they charge more, others may offer one-price anywhere in the US.
2.  Make payment -- use a form of payment that protects you.  (I prefer a charge card, even if I pay a fee)
3.  The ATF doesn't require hat an FFL ship the gun, only receive it.  Having said that, using an FFL on the seller's end protects you (FFL will ship the gun when payment is received), and some Hawaii FFLs won't accept pistols from a non-FFL seller due to issues they experienced in the past.  If the seller is actually an FFL, then it'll save you paying an additional FFL fee.
4.  Provide your FFL's  address and a signed copy of their license to the seller or his FFL.  OGC has a nice self-service FFL License feature on their website which emails a copy of their license to whoever you tell it to email.  Other FFLs will more than likely email or FAX the license as you instruct. 
5.  Get a tracking number  <<== important!    Keep tabs on the status of the package once it ships so you know when it arrives,
6.  Go to your FFL and inspect the gun as soon as it arrives.  Any delay, and you might get stuck with something in worse shape than expected.  Check that all the mags and other parts you expected are included.
7.  Assuming the inspection is fine, verify the serial number, barrel length, make & model, and caliber.  That's all you need for the permit other than type (semi-auto or revolver). 
     Leave the gun at your FFL.
8.  Take all that information to HPD and fill out the permit to acquire application.  At that point, the seller is your FFL, not the guy in another state.  So, when asked who the seller is, give the FFL's name.
9.  Wait 2 weeks, then pick up your permit.
10.  Take the permit to your FFL, fill out the ATF form 4473, and pay your FFL their fee.
11.  Take the gun to HPD with your copy of the permit to acquire and fill out the registration forms.
12.  Sit and wonder why the forms have to be typed on a typewriter, and why anyone still makes carbon copy forms anymore.
13.  Review and sign the registration form and keep the top copy.

All pau!
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

gtrpnoyracer

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 06:21:30 PM »
Thanks bro clears up confusion
So about the 2 week thing,
What's the window like as far picking up the permit. I know it says specific dates and times. but is there a deadline when picking it up? Trying to plan it out cus my schedule is all over the place. Thanks

mauidog

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 06:44:57 PM »
Thanks bro clears up confusion
So about the 2 week thing,
What's the window like as far picking up the permit. I know it says specific dates and times. but is there a deadline when picking it up? Trying to plan it out cus my schedule is all over the place. Thanks

First, I left out you need your handgun safety or hunter's education certificate to register a handgun.  You need to show that for every single pistol permit you apply for.

You have 6 days to pick up the permit at HPD.  On the sixth day, if it's still at HPD, they destroy it.  Back to square 1...   :'(

They say you have 10 days to come back and register, but that's not necessarily true.  You have 10 days if you wait until the 5th thru 10th day to pickup the gun.  if you rush down with the permit the same day it's ready, a 5 day clock starts from then.  Plan your gun pickup accordingly so you can make it back to HPD 5 days after gun pickup and at least 10 days after permit pickup.  Crazy, I know.

also, there seems to be a disconnect between what the permit says and what the law says.  I was told at the gun shop to return to HPD within 5 days (calendar days, not business days) of picking up the gun.  The permit, I think, says 48 hours.  I've never had a problem picking up on a Friday and registering on a Monday or Tuesday.  Watch out for 3-day weekends when HPD is closed.  That might be a factor in when you do the pickup.

More often than not, I pick up the permit the day it's ready, drive to the shop to get the gun, then return to HPD to register -- all in the same day.  If I can't get away from work early enough, I'll get the permit and gun, then go back to HPD the next day or soon after to register.

Not sure the timing is that critical, but it's better to be safe than sorry.  Some have said they registered way more than 10 days after the permit was picked up with no problems.  I believe some have gotten phone calls from HPD to remind them, too!   :rofl:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Drakiir84

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 06:46:49 PM »
Thanks bro clears up confusion
So about the 2 week thing,
What's the window like as far picking up the permit. I know it says specific dates and times. but is there a deadline when picking it up? Trying to plan it out cus my schedule is all over the place. Thanks
Pretty sure you have to wait for the ffl to get it before you apply. Honestly I hope you're saving hundreds of dollars by purchasing from the mainland because if you're saving 10 bucks you should just support the local dealers.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

gtrpnoyracer

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 07:28:25 PM »
Thanks guys!
Yeah I'm definitely saving a whole lot buying from the mainland.
I took the class before so that part is good.
So @mauidog when you say the day the permit is ready, are you referring to the 14th or 15th day?
Also Is it possible to apply for permit for more than one gun on the same day?

Drakiir84

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 07:48:50 PM »
You can apply for as many pistol permits as you want, just need the info for each pistol. Wait the 2 weeks, pick up the permit, get the gun, register the gun.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

mauidog

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 09:10:07 PM »
Thanks guys!
Yeah I'm definitely saving a whole lot buying from the mainland.
I took the class before so that part is good.
So @mauidog when you say the day the permit is ready, are you referring to the 14th or 15th day?
Also Is it possible to apply for permit for more than one gun on the same day?

2 weeks exactly.  If you apply on Friday, it will be waiting for you to pickup 2 Fridays after that.  They always post the date when permits can be picked up on the Firearms Section window.  I always write it down iso I don't have to remember what day I applied. 
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I know what you're thinking. "Did he apply on Monday, or was it Tuesday?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself.

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Sodie

Re: purchasing a gun from mainland and having it shipped to hawaii
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2015, 09:37:20 PM »
I always plug the pickup date into my iPhone during the elevator ride down to the parking garage when I finish applying...  and I'll be picking up on Wednesday this week!   :geekdanc: