some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard (Read 21453 times)

MMM

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2015, 09:34:59 PM »
 :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :D

This is so much better than the k-drama my wife is watching tonight.

eyeeatingfish

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2015, 09:49:57 PM »
I've studied Socialism and Communism in school as well as the military.  The Cold War was still going on then.  Not all of us were born after Reagan left office.  :)

Communism and Socialism are the same thing.  The only real difference is Communism is the "end game" of Socialists.  Think of the game Othello.  The goal is to turn all the pieces to whatever color is yours.  Ideally, you want them all to be Black or White, whichever color you need to win.

Each country that becomes Socialist is another playing piece changed to your color.  Once all the pieces are changed, you have Communism.

Communism can not be attained as long as there is opposition to it/Socialism.  think about it.  If 80% of the world is converted to Socialism, but 20% are still capitalists, those 20% are not donating to the "good of the state".  They are accumulating wealth and capital goods to make profits, not to share with everyone.  The other 80% want that wealth so everyone gets a little more of the wealth instead of a few having it.

Now, think about how easy it would be to blame all your country's woes on the capitalists of the world.  Their greedy capitalist ways are preventing your Socialist nation from attaining true Communism, that utopian state where everyone shares equally, and nobody goes without.  Where it's "from each according to his abilities, and to each according to his needs."  Perfect scapegoat, huh?

it sounds so good until you realize Communism can never be attained unless the US totally abandons our foundation of freedom and individual liberty, those things which make our country so great.


They are not the same thing, yes they share some some similarities but they are not the same thing. And you cannot claim it to be the end game, it is possible that one intend to stop at socialism without going to communism.

I am not trying to prove the virtues of socialism so you don't need to try and prove it is an inferior system. Besides, I am sure we could find a socialistic system you do actually like. Point is don't claim Gabbard to be a socialist for being on the fence on the Iran deal. One is not related to the other.

mauidog

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2015, 01:33:30 AM »

They are not the same thing, yes they share some some similarities but they are not the same thing. And you cannot claim it to be the end game, it is possible that one intend to stop at socialism without going to communism.

I am not trying to prove the virtues of socialism so you don't need to try and prove it is an inferior system. Besides, I am sure we could find a socialistic system you do actually like. Point is don't claim Gabbard to be a socialist for being on the fence on the Iran deal. One is not related to the other.

Do you have any sources that back up your definitions of Socialism & Communism? 

You tell me I'm wrong, but you offer no intelligent sources that agree with you.

Anything?
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

aieahound

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2015, 07:08:47 AM »
I don't want to dive into the deep end of this discussion, but just have to say...
Privileges =/= rights.

I agree. That's why I added the privileges part.

How many times are you going to jack this thread? 

Thread-jacking is rude and disrespectful -- to the entire forum, yet you don't seem to care about that by taking over threads with your little attacks, but it's still poor behavior, especially for a hypocrite

Again, right back at ya.

What does socialism and communism have to do with Tulsi being a Cult member and hoping someone would pick her to run for VP ?

Stop jacking the thread.
 :rofl:
 :stopjack:


eyeeatingfish

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2015, 07:31:52 AM »
Do you have any sources that back up your definitions of Socialism & Communism? 

You tell me I'm wrong, but you offer no intelligent sources that agree with you.

Anything?

The burden of proof is on you sir, I am not required to prove a negative.

GZire

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2015, 09:34:20 AM »
Do you have any sources that back up your definitions of Socialism & Communism? 

You tell me I'm wrong, but you offer no intelligent sources that agree with you.

Anything?


UK has been around for some time and I don't see them heading towards a Communist system anytime soon.

mauidog

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2015, 10:15:49 AM »
The burden of proof is on you sir, I am not required to prove a negative.

Burden of proof? 

If you can't back up your comments by citing a source for the definition of 2 words, then you're just blowing smoke.

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/what-difference-between-communism-and-socialism.asp



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An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

aieahound

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2015, 10:40:45 AM »
You're still jacking it !!!?
 :rofl: ( get the double entendre, but clearly appropriate use of the phrase. )

In your words that is rude, disrespectful to the entire forum, poor behavior, and you sir are clearly a hypocrite.

mauidog

Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2015, 10:43:45 AM »
You're still jacking it !!!?
 :rofl: ( get the double entendre, but clearly appropriate use of the phrase. )

In your words that is rude, disrespectful to the entire forum, poor behavior, and you sir are clearly a hypocrite.

I was wondering if you could get any more immature than you already have ....

thanks for answering that!   :rofl:       :rofl:       :rofl:       :rofl:
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 11:41:31 AM by mauidog »
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Re: some interesting info re: tulsi gabbard
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2015, 02:20:21 PM »
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I am not a lawyer.

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