Aloha,

New member here. Just looking for some guidance after researching for days regarding this issue. I am stationed on Kbay but currently on leave in Texas. My brother suprised me a Sig P226 for my birthday while I was here and I plan on bringing it back. I've been doing a lot of research regarding laws of importing firearms to Hawaii. From my understanding after reading tons of websites it appears that I can declare my firearm with my airline and legally bring to to Oahu. Then within 3 days I will do an out-of-state registration with HPD. I was just wondering if anyone has or know of any experiences of importing handguns from the mainland and if the process I stated earlier sounds correct. Thanks for all your time 

You got it correct. Welcome to the forum. I'd bring back as much ammo as you can with you most airlines are 11 lbs there are some that are more.

Inform the checkin counter agent and declare your firearm. They will not touch your case , but give you a "tag" to sign and place inside your lockable case by "key" (combination locks are not acceptable) by TSA.

Place the tag inside the gun case, then proceed to TSA screening. The airline agent will direct you to TSA.

Wait till all your luggage clears TSA  screening , then its all set till you are back in Hawaii..

Just make sure your magazine is less than 10rds....

Your gun case can be inside your luggage or separate. Either way it will spit out on the carousel with all the other bags from that flight...

You got it correct. Welcome to the forum. I'd bring back as much ammo as you can with you most airlines are 11 lbs there are some that are more.

How much does run there? Never had a reason to look till now. Here you can get a 200 round pack of Winchester 117grain 9mm for $40

Inform the checkin counter agent and declare your firearm. They will not touch your case , but give you a "tag" to sign and place inside your lockable case by "key" (combination locks are not acceptable) by TSA.

Place the tag inside the gun case, then proceed to TSA screening. The airline agent will direct you to TSA.

Wait till all your luggage clears TSA  screening , then its all set till you are back in Hawaii..

Just make sure your magazine is less than 10rds....

Your gun case can be inside your luggage or separate. Either way it will spit out on the carousel with all the other bags from that flight...

Yea im going to have to leave the magazines behind. Any recommendation on a place I can get mecgars for a decent price?

disassemble the magazines and have it blocked locally in hawaii,

or

have them modified in your current area.


a simple rivet  / welding a rod is sufficient to block the follower to disallow the 11th round.

disassemble the magazines and have it blocked locally in hawaii,

or

have them modified in your current area.


a simple rivet  / welding a rod is sufficient to block the follower to disallow the 11th round.

Probably won't have enough time to modify it here. Thanks for all your help man

How much does run there? Never had a reason to look till now. Here you can get a 200 round pack of Winchester 117grain 9mm for $40

That would be $10 for a box of 50 that's a good price.

Here the pricing depends on the ammo purchased the location purchased from and the quantity. You could probably get aluminum cases blazer for the $10 per box price point. OGC will usually have the best prices on bulk cases when the have their sales, other shops tweet or place specials on FB as well.

Probably won't have enough time to modify it here. Thanks for all your help man

As suka mentioned above bring the magazines back disassembled and don't bring them to HPD with you. Either keep them in pieces while there in HI or block them when you can.

What Suka and Dustoff said. 

The procedures stated above for transporting/registering are correct.  BUT, neutering a standard capacity factory magazine for any reason is sacrilege.  Leave them in Texas with your brother or sell/trade for 10 round magazines.

Either keep them in pieces while there in HI or block them when you can.

Sorry brother, but that is bad advice. Whether assembled or in parts, it is still a standard capacity magazine.

Sorry brother, but that is bad advice. Whether assembled or in parts, it is still a standard capacity magazine.

A disassembled magazine is just parts most folks will refer to it as a magazine parts kit. Can a disassembled magazine hold any rounds?

To you and the OP do what you are comfortable with we all have our own interpretation of what is legal and or right.

A disassembled magazine is just parts most folks will refer to it as a magazine parts kit. Can a disassembled magazine hold any rounds?

To you and the OP do what you are comfortable with we all have our own interpretation of what is legal and or right.

It does not matter what "most folks" say, whether someone wants to call it a parts kit, rebuild kit, or whatever there is no exemption. No play on words is worth testing constructive possession or a possession with intent charge. It also doesn't matter whether a disassembled magazine can hold any rounds. The question in court will be if it can be readily assembled and it's capacity once it is. There is a reason shops don't sell standard capacity "kits".

This is not an interpretation or opinion. It is free advice, based on education, knowledge and experience. Bottom line here is:  it is a magazine manufactured to hold more than the legal capacity.  Advising the OP to knowingly bring in, then disassemble and store is simply conspiring to circumvent the law.

And just so you understand, none of this should be taken as me calling you out or to start a pissing match...so don't take it that way. Bad advice that can result in someone getting jammed up must be pointed out.

any 10rd magazine can easily be disabled and converted back to a standard magazine.

A rivet can be drilled out in 4 secs. and a factory blocked mag is just as easy to disable by remove the plastic block.

Most magazine consists of 4 parts , the body, follower, spring, and floor plate.

Without any one of the items a complete magazine is in operational. Constructive intent under court proceeding is " within immediate control of a sole individual " , for this reason it is why some of our inventory is placed in a separate warehouses under different locks. Under the ATF field agents advise, some parts such as stocks are completely separate from pending NFA  Form 1.

It does not matter what "most folks" say, whether someone wants to call it a parts kit, rebuild kit, or whatever there is no exemption. No play on words is worth testing constructive possession or a possession with intent charge. It also doesn't matter whether a disassembled magazine can hold any rounds. The question in court will be if it can be readily assembled and it's capacity once it is. There is a reason shops don't sell standard capacity "kits".

This is not an interpretation or opinion. It is free advice, based on education, knowledge and experience. Bottom line here is:  it is a magazine manufactured to hold more than the legal capacity.  Advising the OP to knowingly bring in, then disassemble and store is simply conspiring to circumvent the law.

And just so you understand, none of this should be taken as me calling you out or to start a pissing match...so don't take it that way. Bad advice that can result in someone getting jammed up must be pointed out.

Glad you put your edit/addition because that's exactly how I took it

Here is an excerpt from HRS 134-8      (c)  The manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable ammunition magazines with a capacity in excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of use with a pistol is prohibited.  This subsection shall not apply to magazines originally designed to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition which have been modified to accept no more than ten rounds and which are not capable of being readily restored to a capacity of more than ten rounds.

I am gonna use part of your last paragraph here "And just so you understand, none of this should be taken as me calling you out or to start a pissing match...so don't take it that way."

Aloha.

any 10rd magazine can easily be disabled and converted back to a standard magazine.

A rivet can be drilled out in 4 secs. and a factory blocked mag is just as easy to disable by remove the plastic block.

Most magazine consists of 4 parts , the body, follower, spring, and floor plate.

Without any one of the items a complete magazine is in operational. Constructive intent under court proceeding is " within immediate control of a sole individual " , for this reason it is why some of our inventory is placed in a separate warehouses under different locks. Under the ATF field agents advise, some parts such as stocks are completely separate from pending NFA  Form 1.

You are exactly correct about how easy it is. But the wording of "readily restored" was clarified as without the use of tools. This was a compromise made 30+ years ago allowing modification of existing magazines. It is why rivets are recommended and not just sticking a block of whatever in a magazine. Factory blocked magazines and their design are a non-issue because they are considered "manufactured" to legal capacity and leave the factory as such.

That is a spot on understanding of constructive possession and intent to manufacture. But in terms of magazines, as silly as it may seem, there is nothing about being "operational" just capacity and design. So an unmodified standard capacity magazine, whether whole or in parts, is still standard capacity.

Glad you put your edit/addition because that's exactly how I took it

That wasn't the edit, but is how the majority of my (or anyone else's) posts should be taken.

We can all agree on one issue...The law is extremely poorly written.

Are there any pure semi auto rifle magazine over 10 rds , that does not have a pistol counterpart?

Are there any pure semi auto rifle magazine over 10 rds , that does not have a pistol counterpart?

FN PS90?

FN PS90?

The mag would be illegal , it holds 50 rds


AR57 pistol

The mag would be illegal , it holds 50 rds


AR57 pistol

That's just wrong!  Why make an AR pistol when the PS90 exists?  It's like grinding up porterhouse into hamburger!!