Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees (Read 23586 times)

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dogman

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2015, 08:05:12 PM »

Heavies

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2015, 08:32:34 PM »
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SOLEsource684

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2015, 11:01:45 PM »
My bad I was so disgusted with this article I didn't even think it would already be in here. Lol that said looks like Sand Island is the perfect refugee housing complex.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2015, 12:12:46 AM »
Isn't this all irrelevant? Once someone comes to the US they have the freedom to travel within the country all they like. No state has the ability to welcome or reject refugees once they enter the country.

mauidog

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2015, 07:23:55 AM »
Isn't this all irrelevant? Once someone comes to the US they have the freedom to travel within the country all they like. No state has the ability to welcome or reject refugees once they enter the country.

States have the right to not provide city, county or state-funded services to non-residents.  Employers are not required to hire non-residents.

Most states have a law that requires a year to establish residency.  That's a long time to live without a job or welfare checks.
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Jl808

Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2015, 07:25:21 AM »
Of course it is relevant. The state that receives them will need to cough up tax dollars to settle them.  If they want to come and live here in Hawaii on their own, let them try.

How many mainland "refugees" do we have coming into Hawaii who find out they can't hack it here and end up going back?

Heck, even some locals have a hard time making it here and end up leaving Hawaii for less expensive states.
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aieahound

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2015, 07:51:59 AM »
Seems Ige is doing a nice side step ignoring a rather large homeless, indigent issue we have here now.

And now this democrat idiot want to import thousands more that do not even live here or have a clue about living here?

Come on, providing for those here now is enough of a divisive issue, why does this idiot democrat want to double down on the problem by inviting in possible terrorists?

Oh, dumb question: instant democrat voters............

Same old shit as the illegal aliens in the mainland.  Compassion has nothing to do with it , permanent democrat voting majority is where it is at.

I don't think this will garner Democratic votes.
I think everyone, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, is going to be like  :wtf:
Has he looked out the window at our homeless problem ?
We don't have enough housing as it is.

And EEF does have a point. Once they're in, they're in.
They can travel freely between States with Federal welfare and assistance.
And I'm pretty sure Hawaii is not denying State or County benefits to Mainland transplants.

it was stupid for Ige to jump into this situation.

Rocky

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2015, 08:33:51 AM »
This was on luv guv's Face book page

"call the U.S. Capitol and let them know that you OPPOSE REFUGEES THAT POSE A THREAT in the United States. 1-202-224-3121 The automated operator will ask you what State, and transfer you to your Senator and your State Representative. It takes about 2 minutes. Share too. I called and I was able to leave a message!"
Didn't quite work that way but it does get you connected.
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Inspector

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2015, 11:23:15 AM »
I have a dumb question. I was under the understanding that the states are the ones that administer the federal and state welfare programs. I know it used to be that way. Is it not that way any more?
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aieahound

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2015, 12:19:42 PM »
I think you're right.
But the Feds control the purse.

Yes Governer's /States are relevant.

Here's a pretty good article breaking it down.

http://www.vox.com/explainers/2015/11/17/9749484/governors-refugees-syriaW
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 01:51:18 PM by aieahound »

Inspector

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2015, 02:16:09 PM »
I think you're right.
But the Feds control the purse.

Yes Governer's /States are relevant.

Here's a pretty good article breaking it down.

http://www.vox.com/explainers/2015/11/17/9749484/governors-refugees-syriaW
Thanks Hound!  :thumbsup:
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2015, 03:10:28 PM »
We have taken in the largest chunk of micronesians and the federal government continuously fails to reimburse the state for its associated costs (last I read) so on that note I would hesitate to believe that the feds will offer any additional support for any Syrians we take.

zippz

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2015, 05:34:20 PM »
I think the US should take in some refuges as I think this would go a long way towards creating peace in the middle east.  They can learn our culture, work ethic, working with other religions, etc and hopefully take it back to Syria when things settle down there or have other Syrians wonder why they can't have this lifestyle and rights.  I think this is needed in the long term.

I know there are many cons to this as Syrians are unskilled, will most likely stay homeless/jobless unless well guided & funded to get educated, and of course the security thing.  Hawaii would be the worst place to bring them due to the high cost of housing and living and they'd be competing with other local homeless for services. 

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2015, 06:09:08 PM »
I think the US should take in some refuges as I think this would go a long way towards creating peace in the middle east.  They can learn our culture, work ethic, working with other religions, etc and hopefully take it back to Syria when things settle down there or have other Syrians wonder why they can't have this lifestyle and rights.  I think this is needed in the long term.

I know there are many cons to this as Syrians are unskilled, will most likely stay homeless/jobless unless well guided & funded to get educated, and of course the security thing.  Hawaii would be the worst place to bring them due to the high cost of housing and living and they'd be competing with other local homeless for services.

The US has been at peace with Japan since Sep 2, 1945; not one refugee needed.

Maybe it's time the US makes peace with the Middle East, the same way we did Japan.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2015, 06:23:42 PM »
The US has been at peace with Japan since Sep 2, 1945; not one refugee needed.

Maybe it's time the US makes peace with the Middle East, the same way we did Japan.

By rebuilding their government? ;)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2015, 06:26:02 PM »
I think the US should take in some refuges as I think this would go a long way towards creating peace in the middle east.  They can learn our culture, work ethic, working with other religions, etc and hopefully take it back to Syria when things settle down there or have other Syrians wonder why they can't have this lifestyle and rights.  I think this is needed in the long term.

I know there are many cons to this as Syrians are unskilled, will most likely stay homeless/jobless unless well guided & funded to get educated, and of course the security thing.  Hawaii would be the worst place to bring them due to the high cost of housing and living and they'd be competing with other local homeless for services.

Certainly factors to consider. Though it is often noted that people who are immigrating to this country are willing to work very hard even when coming from very poor backgrounds. I don't know whether the Syrians will follow suit but I don't think we can assume they will be homeless bums right off the bat.

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2015, 06:44:44 PM »
By rebuilding their government? ;)

Yes, after we treat the cancer there with radiation.  :geekdanc:

Q

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2015, 06:50:07 PM »
Certainly factors to consider. Though it is often noted that people who are immigrating to this country are willing to work very hard even when coming from very poor backgrounds. I don't know whether the Syrians will follow suit but I don't think we can assume they will be homeless bums right off the bat.

Syrians have one of the worst IQ ratings in the world; barely floating around 80, which is about what someone with a learning disability has.

Syrians are some of the most illiterate people in the world, with 4 out of 5 women being completely illiterate, and nearly all of them not being able to speak English.

So tell me how they are going to fit in and contribute to a society where the local and indigenous population are already struggling as it is, along with thousands of homeless already on the streets with more added to their ranks everyday?


Out of all the people coming here, the Micronesians deserve to be here more than the Syrians. Why? Because our testing made many of their islands inhabitable, we poisoned hundreds if not thousands of Micronesians through radioactive drift, and at least we get 2,000,000 sqmi of the Pacific Ocean through the Compact of Free Associations treaty.

What does bringing in these Syrians offer us? Nothing but another potential terrorist attack and more burden on our system from people who shouldn't be coming here.

Rocky

Re: Governor: Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2015, 09:59:00 PM »
   And not once have I heard anything about the security of Hawaii's military presence.

    Every branch of the military has a base on Oahu.
22 bases with almost 95,000 enlisted, MCB alone has about 10,000

   Take a tour of Pearl harbor or check out Barking Sands Missile Range
Want communication see Wahiawa.and be sure to check out the C-17 and Raptors @ Hickam
Or just try the whole PCOM enchilada

Nice targets.  :shake:
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