You're right we aren't "at war" with Syria. This isn't about "Syria". It's already been proven in Europe that the majority of the "refugees" aren't Syrian.

Whether we like it or not, ISIS is at war with us. It's idiocy of the highest order IMO to bring their soldiers into this country so they can do to us what they did to the French.

All of the agencies responsible for vetting these people have already admitted there is no possible way to screen out ISIS soldiers. The records simply don't exist, anywhere.

You don't bring the enemy to live with you, it's never a good idea.

I agree that it would be very difficult or basically impossible to filter out every possible terrorist. The thing is either we or someone else will deal with it one way or another. The USA just has the fortune of being separated by a large sea. So what to do with all the ones moving into Europe? Detention camps? I do think we have some obligation to help, I just don't know how.

Send them home and help them deal with ISIS.

Merkel should not have opened her big mouth and created a stampede across Europe.

So what to do with all the ones moving into Europe? Detention camps? I do think we have some obligation to help, I just don't know how.

I have a good idea. Give them all gift certificates for a Honey Ham and send them back to Syria! 

I have a good idea. Give them all gift certificates for a Honey Ham and send them back to Syria! 

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Now that's really keeping the Christmas spirit alive.

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Now that's really keeping the Christmas spirit alive.

You guys are AWESOME I think we could be friends!!!!

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Now that's really keeping the Christmas spirit alive.

I agree that it would be very difficult or basically impossible to filter out every possible terrorist. The thing is either we or someone else will deal with it one way or another. The USA just has the fortune of being separated by a large sea. So what to do with all the ones moving into Europe? Detention camps? I do think we have some obligation to help, I just don't know how.

This might not be feasible due to the numbers involved but if they performed lie detector tests on all people seeking refugee status then I would be ok with letting them in.

This might not be feasible due to the numbers involved but if they performed lie detector tests on all people seeking refugee status then I would be ok with letting them in.

Won't happen.

Ask yourself, what benefits do these refugees offer us?  What do we get out of letting them into the country?

Also, ask yourself why this is happening now?  For over 3 years, the US did nothing while hundreds of  thousands of Syrians were slaughtered.  What did Obama do?  From what I've read, it's obvious he was arming the rebels to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Those rebels became ISIS.

Won't happen.

Ask yourself, what benefits do these refugees offer us?  What do we get out of letting them into the country?

Also, ask yourself why this is happening now?  For over 3 years, the US did nothing while hundreds of  thousands of Syrians were slaughtered.  What did Obama do?  From what I've read, it's obvious he was arming the rebels to overthrow Bashar al-Assad.

Those rebels became ISIS.

Why don't you think it won't happen?

What do we get from letting them in our country? We get the benefit of helping people in need. We get the benefit of leadership by example. We also get more Syrian restaurants

Why don't you think it won't happen?

What do we get from letting them in our country? We get the benefit of helping people in need. We get the benefit of leadership by example. We also get more Syrian restaurants

Because our government doesn't have the equipment or trained manpower to screen thousands of people in their own language.

We have plenty of people in the US who need help without having to go to other countries to help people for the intangible, emotional "benefits" you listed.  When it's said and done, the majority will continue to see us as enemies, and as weak for having aided our enemies.

Also, ask yourself why this is happening now?

I agree.

We had a chance to save crap load of Yazidis being slaughtered and stuck on a mountain and we didn't bring them all in as refugees.

Why now ?

I keep hearing people talking about nonviolence and using love to solve this problem 

From America, with Love....and a cup full of hippie vibes too:

I keep hearing people talking about nonviolence and using love to solve this problem 

From America, with Love....and a cup full of hippie vibes too:

Everytime I think of the Coke ad with "I'd like to teach the world to sing," I think of the Muslims.

Muslims won't allow Coca Cola in their country because it's owned by Jews.  When I was in Saudi Arabia, it was all Pepsi products.

If you "buy the world a Coke," the Muslims will bash you over the head with it!  So much for peace, love and understanding!!

The terror alert system DHS installed 5 yrs ago, replacing Bush-era color-coded chart, has issued ZERO alerts.

http://www.dhs.gov/national-terrorism-advisory-system

This might not be feasible due to the numbers involved but if they performed lie detector tests on all people seeking refugee status then I would be ok with letting them in.

Here's my test.

If they eat this, and can quote something from the bible, they can stay.

Are we talking about into the US in general or into Hawaii?

I am really conflicted about this because I know there are a lot of innocent people (including young children) that NEED help.

With that said though... let's look at the posts from Hawaii News Now JUST within the past few days (along with a few other facts):

- City Council members passed the bill Wednesday, which extends Oahu's 0.5 percent tax surcharge from 2022 to 2027 to cover increasing rail costs.

- Overcrowding on Oahu is so bad that when the zipper lane broke, people were stuck in traffic for up to *7 hours*. In Pearl City, it more often than not takes an HOUR+ to get somewhere that should normally be 10 to 15 minutes away.

- A U.S. Housing and Urban Development report released Thursday said there were more than 4,900 homeless in Honolulu - more than ANY OTHER small city in the US

- Lawmaker wants Waianae Harbor homeless encampment cleared. (The camp is over 10 years old. Why now and where will they go?) The homeless camps in town were raided and swept because rich investors want to build another waterfront

- Governor Ige declared a State of Emergency just last month because of the homeless problem.

- The cost of a STUDIO apartment in the ghetto costs is over $1,000/month.

... and yet Gov. Ige says Hawaii would welcome Syrian refugees with open arms here.

WHERE would they live?

HOW would we be able to afford their housing, healthcare, education (for the children), and grocery costs??

WHAT important programs or funding will we have to cut to be able to afford it?

Are they going to be allowed access to our military bases for specific care or if military families offered to help?

Is there a plan in place or do they just plan on winging it?

Yes, we ARE the Aloha State and we should find a way to help them, but these are VALID concerns! 

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Now, regarding the mainland, there definitely is room.. but I wish the government wouldn't lie about being able to check each and every refugee. There is NO WAY they can possibly check out each and every single one of them as thoroughly as needed to find if they have any affiliations with terrorist groups. Claiming it is dangerous because it gives people a false sense of security. Sleeper cells are already here in the US and I do think they'll be able to slip a few more in with the refugees. The question then becomes - would the possibility of one or more sleeper cells passing in trump the help that the mainland could offer all of those families?

Unfortunately, the issue is a double edged sword any way you look at it.

I heard one interesting solution on Facebook today. Make a camp/small city for them in Alaska far away from anything else.

I heard one interesting solution on Facebook today. Make a camp/small city for them in Alaska far away from anything else.

yeah or follow in Chinas foot steps, find a island and build.

If I learn there are Syrian refugees, mostly males, arriving in Hawaii, I feel the need to welcome them when they land with a sign they ought to understand: