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guns43v3r

Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« on: December 13, 2015, 02:38:07 AM »
Very frustrating new form from hpd, does anyone know of a physciactrist who I can go to or anybody who I can have Kaiser send my medical records to get a letter? This is ridiculous. Please inform and thank you in advance
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Heavies

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 08:37:34 AM »
I would encourage you, first thing, to contact Mr. Richard Holcomb. 

Quote from: HiCarry on November 04, 2015, 01:50:05 PM
Attention all you Kaiser members who have had some problems with HPD in obtaining firearms permits.

The same attorney that took on HDF's Chris Baker's case and the resident alien (Fotoudis) case, is looking for Kaiser members for a possible legal action. If you are a Kaiser member and have had any problems relating to obtaining a firearm permit, please given him a call to discuss your circumstances. He is particularly interested in the gentleman who was denied based on some diabetic counseling he received.

Here's the contact info:

Richard Holcomb
(808) 545-4040
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Heavies

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 09:55:55 AM »
Quote from: HiCarry on December 07, 2015, 09:26:34 AM
If you are an HRA member and need a doctor to provide medical clearance to HPD (It will be a "real" evaluation so if you have a true disqualifying condition you won't get a clearance letter) please PM me.

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Heavies

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 09:56:03 AM »

Quote from: Dumbgun on December 07, 2015, 03:51:53 PM
I just got permission from DR. office. they are willing to do the review for firearms clearance.

1. Don't mention me, if theres a "secret squirrel" on this forum, I don't want you jamming it up for me and the DR. pulls his endorsement of me.

2. DR. is a real M.D. he is not rubber stamping. He will check you out.

3. Fee is $130. Cash or credit. When HPD took  my application, I asked, and the officer said that the DR. clearance is good for all future purchases. But who knows what they'll come up with next.

4. Have all your records. Kaiser (at least one year) to include the standard no drug/mental letter. Obtainable at dole canary 2nd floor across theatre parking lot the one with the skywalk. I misplaced the number so you have to look it up. Anita will take
    care of you.

5. Bring your gun safety affidavit. I even brought my permits from Aug 2104, a rifle and pistol, to show I was legal. if you have your long gun permit thats dated as to when you was last cleared. All this will help. Just bring everything you have gun related.

6. I went thru 11 DR's  this was only one who was willing to do the review. DO NOT FUCK  IT UP FOR ME!, or others who need a non Kaiser review. Im supposed to get my permit and pistol on 12/17. After that I don't care.

DR. Lu FIATOA M.D.
MANA Medical Center
(808) 200-3305
94-307 Farrington HWY., B01
Waipahu. Hi 96797
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Heavies

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 09:57:28 AM »
If you know of any other Doctors which will provide this service, please post here.  Please keep the thread clear of all other replies.
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HiCarry

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 10:48:05 AM »
Quote from: Heavies on December 13, 2015, 09:55:55 AM


Bad news. The doctor we had made arrangements with to perform these exams has now decided not to do them. We will work on getting another doctor and I will post something once we do.
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mauidog

Re: Who can I go to and get clearance letter for Kaiser
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 11:57:58 AM »
The thing with the HPD letter is, it requires an affirmative statement of fact:

    "shall own, possess, or control any firearm or ammunition and has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addition, abuse, dependence, mental disease, disorder, or defect"

If I were a doctor, I'd never sign that.  It should be in the negative:

    "has no documented medical or psychological conditions which would deny this person the ownership, possession, or control of any firearm or ammunition in accordance with Hawaii state law."

It's one thing to say, "He has not been diagnosed as crazy" but another to say "He's totally sane." 

The other problem is, HPD wants the doctor to draw a conclusion regarding firearms risk.

Expecting a medical professional to make a legal determination regarding gun ownership
is no better than
expecting a police office to read an applicant's medical records to determine if he represents a risk to the public.
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