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brother7

Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« on: January 09, 2016, 06:02:51 PM »
Recently found out that some states issue gun permits to non-residents. A few states even allow you to apply by mail. Has anyone ever gone through the process? If so, which state and how was your experience?
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RSN172

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 07:04:13 PM »
I have permits for Utah, Nevada and Arizona.  UT and AZ permits were mailed in with the NV training certificate. To get the NV permit you must take the training in NV and either apply in person or pick it up in person if the application was mailed in.  You can get the UT permit training here.  There are several UT certified instructors in Hawaii.
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mauidog

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 08:08:36 PM »
Quote from: brother7 on January 09, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
Recently found out that some states issue gun permits to non-residents. A few states even allow you to apply by mail. Has anyone ever gone through the process? If so, which state and how was your experience?

I have a non-resident Maine permit.  Probably one of the easiest to get -- no fingerprints required unless they need some to resolve questions concerning your identity.  They require a  passport size photo. 

They require evidence of handgun safety training.  Your Hawaii NRA handgun safety training is good within 5 years of completion.  If you are ex-military, your DD214 showing other than dishonorable discharge suffices for training.

Cost for new and renewal applications is $60.

I waited almost a year, but that was right after Obama was re-elected!  Now that Maine passed permitless carry for residents, hopefully they can go back to the 60-day limit they are required to issue them in.

If you plan to go to Maine, non-residents are allowed to concealed carry a pistol without a permit.  At this point, the only reason to get a one would be to carry in another state that reciprocates and honors the Maine permit.

Which states do you want to be able to carry in?

https://www1.maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/documents/Weapons/non-resident%20application%20package.pdf
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brother7

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 04:44:33 PM »
Most states require that you submit a fingerprint card along with your application. Where can one do this on Oahu?
I called HPD and the Sheriff's Dept and neither offer that service.
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suka

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 04:53:54 PM »
Quote from: brother7 on January 14, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Most states require that you submit a fingerprint card along with your application. Where can one do this on Oahu?
I called HPD and the Sheriff's Dept and neither offer that service.


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mauidog

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 04:54:45 PM »
Quote from: brother7 on January 14, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Most states require that you submit a fingerprint card along with your application. Where can one do this on Oahu?
I called HPD and the Sheriff's Dept and neither offer that service.

It's a catch-22 for some states.  Florida requires the law enforcement or other government agency doing the prints must sign the card and certify they did it. 

I was told to call the records section at HPD, and if another law enforcement agency (FL State Police) are requiring it, HPD may agree to do them.

From the Florida CCW application instructions:

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You must submit a complete and legible set of fingerprints on the FINGERPRINT CARD enclosed or by ELECTRONIC SCAN (see next page
for information). If you use the enclosed card, your fingerprints must be taken at a LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. Your local Florida county
sheriff will provide fingerprinting service if requested and may charge a fee not to exceed $5. There may also be a charge associated with the
fingerprint service provided by another law enforcement agency. Your fingerprint card will not be processed if: (1) the required information is
not contained within the designated blocks; (2) a highlighter is used; (3) the card has been folded, creased, or damaged.

Based on that, you may be able to talk HPD records into taking the prints and signing the card.

Other states may vary.  I only looked into Florida before I decided on Maine's permit (no fingerprints).
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Tom_G

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 09:03:17 PM »
I recall going to one of the military bases to have my fingerprint card done for... something.  It's been a while.  The details will bubble up in a day or three, but it was a service that they offered.  You could either get an inkless scan, or the old-school ink-on-paper (which was required for whatever it was I was doing). 
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Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 03:10:39 PM »
Quote from: brother7 on January 14, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Most states require that you submit a fingerprint card along with your application. Where can one do this on Oahu?
I called HPD and the Sheriff's Dept and neither offer that service.


I got scans and hardcopies here.  Accepted for CCW permits.
http://www.fingerprinting.com/hawaii/honolulu/hawaii-criminal-justice-data-center/
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brother7

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 08:43:12 AM »
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These states DO NOT honor or recognize a non-resident Carry License or Carry Permit except their own state non-resident, if they issue one:
  • Arkansas
  • Florida
  • Colorado
  • Louisiana
  • Michigan
  • Nebraska
  • New Hampshire
  • North Carloina
  • Oklahoma
  • Ohio
  • South Carolina
  • Texas
Source: LegallyArmed.com

I was aware of this but this is the first LIST OF STATES I've found. Saved me the time to research each state's laws.
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RSN172

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 10:14:58 AM »
I don't think that list of states is quite right.  I checked Ohio and Texas, two states on that list that I have gone to on occasion, and it seems to me that my non resident UT permit is valid in both.  The only state that I now go to outside of Hawaii is NV and I have a NV non resident permit so I am good there.  I have screen shots of Ohio and Texas laws below.


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Sodie

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 10:24:21 AM »
USA Carry (http://www.usacarry.com) seems to stay pretty up-to-date.  Regardless, I'd recommend checking state laws yourself, rather than taking any third-party website's word for it.  You're the one who will get jammed up if you get it wrong...

I've got Utah and Arizona; wanted that combination to make sure I got Minnesota, but after I'd committed to the class, Minnesota changed the law and doesn't recognize either non-resident permit anymore.   :grrr:
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2016, 04:19:28 PM »
I am assuming people apply for all thereout of state CCW permits so that when they travel to the mainland they can carry?
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mauidog

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2016, 04:46:50 PM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on January 18, 2016, 04:19:28 PM
I am assuming people apply for all thereout of state CCW permits so that when they travel to the mainland they can carry?

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hispdvic

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2016, 05:32:46 PM »
Washington State and Idaho have what they call an enhanced CCW permit, but in both states you are required to attend an 8 hr class. The Washington one is class room only, the Idaho one is class room than you shoot a course of fire to qualify, forgot what the cost is for Washington in Idaho its $100. Both are good for 5 years, the Washington CCW is actually the Utah permit which is honored in 32 states and the Idaho is good for 37 states.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2016, 08:18:27 PM »
Quote from: mauidog on January 18, 2016, 04:46:50 PM


Was just checking if there was some other use that I didn't know about.

Of course it would be relevant if the nationwide reciprocity act were passed!
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RSN172

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2016, 07:11:16 AM »
Quote from: eyeeatingfish on January 18, 2016, 08:18:27 PM
Was just checking if there was some other use that I didn't know about.

On the rare occasion you are asked for a 2nd picture ID, you can represent your CCW permit, unless you have an AZ permit, which does not have a photo.
I was wondering why the AZ permit application did not require a photo like the UT and NV applications until I received it and read the back.
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mauidog

Re: Gun permit in another state as a non-resident: has anyone tried?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2016, 10:02:50 PM »
Quote from: RSN172 on January 19, 2016, 07:11:16 AM
On the rare occasion you are asked for a 2nd picture ID, you can represent your CCW permit, unless you have an AZ permit, which does not have a photo.
I was wondering why the AZ permit application did not require a photo like the UT and NV applications until I received it and read the back.

Even if you have a photo attached, most permits don't have the same anti-fraud devices as an official state- or federal-government-issued ID.  Therefore, it's up to the requester if they will accept it as actual ID. 

Since a CCW permit card identifies you as someone possibly carrying a firearm, it might be wise not to present it for any other purposes (of course, in Hawaii -- no problem there!).
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