The seller doesn't want to give me his name or address

Mentioned hpd can get it based on the serial #

Are the hpd guys that nice and will fill it in for me or will they tell me to "fill in the blank"

The weird thing is I'm going to see the sellers name and address when hpd fills in the blanks or when I pick up the permit but I guess he has his reasons

The seller seems to know the legality/law stuff and posts here a lot

So how much of my okole will I still have left after I tell the guy at the counter to get the name and address from the serial # ?
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Im thinking he has to go down to hpd with you to transfer if he doesn't wanna give you the info... Strange.

The seller doesn't want to give me his name or address

Mentioned hpd can get it based on the serial #

Are the hpd guys that nice and will fill it in for me or will they tell me to "fill in the blank"

The weird thing is I'm going to see the sellers name and address when hpd fills in the blanks or when I pick up the permit but I guess he has his reasons

The seller seems to know the legality/law stuff and posts here a lot

So how much of my okole will I still have left after I tell the guy at the counter to get the name and address from the serial # ?
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Ask the seller for the gun's registration form control number.  Usually starts with a "G".

Give that to the officer, and they can get everything they need from their copy of the form, including the firearm description.  Make sure you also get the serial #, in case there are multiple guns on that registration.

Hope he's not withholding that info because it stolen.

Hope he's not withholding that info because it stolen.

Sounds sketchy.

Im thinking he has to go down to hpd with you to transfer if he doesn't wanna give you the info... Strange.

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I would transfer at HPD.

You don't need the sellers name or address. As mentioned above the registration form control number and the SN is all.

Funny I have had seller tell me to take a pic of the registration form, plenty of info there Name, Address, DOB, SSN and the like. That's enough to get a credit card or a loan.

Absolutely what dustoff and MauiD said.

But you don't know if the seller is the legal owner or a tweaker who stole his dad's gun and Dad don't know it.

Long gun or pistol ?

Thanks guys ....ill check on the registration form #

AH - good point.  I'll check his id when we meet again

It's a handgun.

I wouldn't do the buy under those terms.

You can still turn down the offer if you're uncomfortable with it.

I think he read this tread.  I asked for the registration form # but he gave me his name and address.  :-)

(Actually I kind of got his address earlier by googling his phone # - I'm pretty tech savvy for an old man)

I purchased a 10/22 from a friend a few years back and I asked for his address. I already had the serial number, his name and phone number. Went down to register it and they told me the name I had for the owner was wrong. They kept on me about not having his correct name. I finally checked the e-mail I got from my friend where he gave me his info. Turns out I knew him by his nick name. I had his last name correct but HPD was not letting it go that I didn't have the first name correct until I finally came up with his correct first name. I don't know if they would have refused to register the gun or not but I found it weird that I had the gun and all the info but just had the first name wrong and they kept at me about needing to provide the correct first name. 

I have never bought a firearm from a private seller.  So to avoid any problems what is the step by step process to secure same...from purchase to registration.  I presume I would need to provide previous registration papers and having that reviewed and approved by HPD prior to sale of firearm (?)

I have never bought a firearm from a private seller.  So to avoid any problems what is the step by step process to secure same...from purchase to registration.  I presume I would need to provide previous registration papers and having that reviewed and approved by HPD prior to sale of firearm (?)

basically its the same process as if you bought it from a store
long gun you just bring in to register, assuming you have a valid long gun permit.
have the info for the rifle, name of seller and phone number (thats what i put on it, and that works, not sure if thats necessary or not but thats what i do)

handgun is same procedure as from a store
apply for permit to acquire with gun info, assuming you have a valid affidavit or hunter safety card, name of seller and phone number
come back in 2 weeks, pick up permit, get gun, come back and register it.

meet seller at HPD makes it faster, and everyone knows it is registered properly right then and there.

i use the info sheet from the HPD website for the firearm info, and that works

basically its the same process as if you bought it from a store
long gun you just bring in to register, assuming you have a valid long gun permit.
have the info for the rifle, name of seller and phone number (thats what i put on it, and that works, not sure if thats necessary or not but thats what i do)

handgun is same procedure as from a store
apply for permit to acquire with gun info, assuming you have a valid affidavit or hunter safety card, name of seller and phone number
come back in 2 weeks, pick up permit, get gun, come back and register it.

meet seller at HPD makes it faster, and everyone knows it is registered properly right then and there.

i use the info sheet from the HPD website for the firearm info, and that works

For the buyer's side of the sale, it's low risk.  As long as you have your permit and register the gun after taking possession, you're good.

Seller has to:
- ensure you are a Hawaii resident
- ensure you are old enough to possess the gun
- have no indication or knowledge you are unable to possess a gun legally (felon, mentally ill, domestic abuser, etc.)
- view/sign the permit to verify you have one (helps with above item knowing they had a background check when applying for the permit)
- notify the police within 48 hours of transfer

For handguns, it's so much easier to meet at the police station, finalize the sale (exchange payment and gun), pick up the permit, get both signatures, register, and all done.

For long guns, if you already have the permit in hand, just have a bill of sale between you, and take that, the owner's permit control number, and the gun to HPD and register it. 

You can legally be in possession of a long gun not registered to you, but not a handgun.   That's why meeting to register the handgun is a good solution.  Otherwise, you wind up making a lot of trips:

- view the handgun and agree on purchase - obtain vital info for gun and seller to put on permit application;
- go to HPD to apply for permit and wait 2 weeks;
- go to HPD and pick up permit;
- go to seller with permit in hand and acquire the gun;
- go to HPD and register

Instead, you can do three trips:
- view the gun;
- apply for the permit at HPD;
- meet at HPD and leave with a registered handgun.

If you agree to meet at HPD to show the gun, the first two steps can be combined, making just 2 trips.

" Is hpd going to give me grief? "