My Lawsuit Update, (Read 17596 times)

London808

My Lawsuit Update,
« on: January 27, 2016, 05:46:55 PM »
BAck in November i had to file a Lawsuit in Federal court in regards to HPD violating my rights and potentially the rights of others,

I First Acquired a Rifle permit and was issued it with no problem, I Then tried to get a pistol permit a couple of weeks latter and this is where i ran into a problem. HPD claimed to have a "policy"

They claimed that the policy stated that Non-Citizens were required to provide documentation (a letter or copy of their criminal history) from their country of origin or the embassy or consulate of that country. When asked for a copy of the policy they claimed it was a verbal policy issued from the cheifes/city lawyers.
They claimed the policy was because the NCIS check they are required to do does not show family crimes or misdemeanors that would prohibit owning a gun in Hawaii.
I explained to them they were wrong and that it does show this (i even checked with Homeland security) I explained that the law required that they do the background check, I also explained that if i went to get my citizenship (which i am in the process of doing) they wouldn't even ask about my history before hand (their is no history anyway).
This is where it gets really stupid, I had already been issued a valid rifle permit, So i went and bought a cheap shotgun. I then took this shotgun to HPD to register, They seized my shotgun and revoked my permit. They told me the permit was issued in error and as such i should of never been able to buy the shotgun. I explained that although they may believe that to be the case, The law does not allow them to seize my legally purchased/owned firearm and doing so was a violation of my rights, I asked them under what law they were seizing it and they could not answer, I asked them if i had broken a law they told me no.

I was left with little to no choice but to file suit. I called Richard L Holcomb (If you need a lawyer for this type of thing he is the guy)  I expalined the situation to him and he was right on it, We filled the lawsuit in federal court on November 6th 2015 (a copy of which can be found here http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Portals/0/Article%20Attachments/Roberts%20v%20Honolulu%202nd%20Amendment.pdf)

It is a 2nd, 4th and 14th amendment case,

The city settled the case  this past week, They accept no liability or wrong doing But gave me back my rifle and issued me both my permits, They also changed HPD policy to state that they can/will not require additional background checks of non-citizens other then allowed by law (via the NCIS database)

Now im not sure how many other people they may have done this too who were not aware of what their rights are, But even tho this dose not affect that many people here in Hawaii, it is still a 2A win for everyone.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

suka

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2016, 06:18:09 PM »
Good Job to you and Mr. Holcomb.

Were any compensation paid to the Lawyer for fees and ACLU donation?

London808

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2016, 06:26:27 PM »
When you ask for compensation, lawsuits tend to take a lot longer, I wanted to get this taken care of as quick as possible, Fees are being taken care of to the maximum extent that the law allows
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

suka

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2016, 06:27:54 PM »
Good,  I just want the City to pay $ for such actions.

Inspector

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2016, 08:24:02 PM »
Congrats!!! Good job to you and Holcomb. I applaud you both!!!!  :thumbsup:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

eyeeatingfish

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2016, 09:07:02 PM »
Good,  I just want the City to pay $ for such actions.

You mean you want all of us to pay with our tax dollars?

In the end, I think they did have to pay for lawyer opinions and whatnot.

mauidog

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2016, 09:21:51 PM »
You mean you want all of us to pay with our tax dollars?

In the end, I think they did have to pay for lawyer opinions and whatnot.

If there was no admission or finding of wrong doing, governments have insurance policies to pay these claims.  Taxes pay for the insurance coverage, but the claims are not paid with tax dollars.  That's one reason they are always quick with a settlement offer to avoid a judgement against them -- especially if the case against the gov't is strong.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Dumbgun

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 01:34:05 AM »
A win is a win. Good job and congrats. Let us know when go American. You effected positive change without thought of $$$. You deserve something for time and effort.  I ain't got no money so.... :shaka:

Rocky

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 07:41:52 AM »
    Way to go London808 and Mr. Holcomb.  :thumbsup:

    Think of  any taxpayer payment of fees this way.
The anti's helped pay for it  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Inspector

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 11:24:46 AM »
You mean you want all of us to pay with our tax dollars?

In the end, I think they did have to pay for lawyer opinions and whatnot.
If I had a choice of where my taxpayer's dollars went to I would say this was money well spent!

It was stupid that we had to go through this in the first place. But since we did I am glad they lost and had to pay up.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

wolfwood

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 03:36:07 AM »
Good Job to you and Mr. Holcomb.

Were any compensation paid to the Lawyer for fees and ACLU donation?

Rick and I are petitioning the Court for fees right now. It will be awhile before we know how much we get. 
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suka

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 08:25:18 AM »
Rick and I are petitioning the Court for fees right now. It will be awhile before we know how much we get.

Great thank you for standing up for us.

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Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 08:53:05 AM »
Thanks to all involved. The time and effort. I know I appreciate it!

suka

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 03:37:01 PM »
Rick and I are petitioning the Court for fees right now. It will be awhile before we know how much we get.
I might have a case for you , PM me if you want to hear of it.


macsak

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 04:07:42 PM »
I might have a case for you , PM me if you want to hear of it.

call them
his number is in one of the other threads

asinapple8805

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2016, 06:01:13 PM »
If there was no admission or finding of wrong doing, governments have insurance policies to pay these claims.  Taxes pay for the insurance coverage, but the claims are not paid with tax dollars.  That's one reason they are always quick with a settlement offer to avoid a judgement against them -- especially if the case against the gov't is strong.

Are you sure about that?

There's usually a bill every year in the Legislature that makes appropriations out of the General Fund for the settlement of claims against the state, or its departments.

Here's the one from last year:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Archives/measure_indiv_Archives.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=896&year=2015
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2015/bills/HB896_CD1_.htm

wolfwood

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2016, 02:28:51 PM »
well don't think I am trying to get rich off of these cases
The attorney fee award finally came out today

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Inspector

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 02:47:09 PM »
well don't think I am trying to get rich off of these cases
The attorney fee award finally came out today
Well, I certainly believe you deserve a lot more for all the work you did.

I have only used 2 lawyers in my life. One was my father's estate case that went on for 3 years. While he refused to go after the opposing attorney (we have enough evidence to get that attorney disbarred) he still did a good job for us.

The other attorney was for my workman's comp case and while I thought he got a lot of money for what little he did, he made sure I didn't get ripped off. That was worth the money I paid.

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

GlockNewb

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 02:47:25 PM »
Wheels of justice turn slowly indeed, but congratulations on the win and thank you for your diligence.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

suka

Re: My Lawsuit Update,
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2016, 07:44:06 PM »
I read the whole pdf file and noted this remark in the order...........




“counsel would have been better off financially had they
 abandoned the practice of law and apprenticed as a plumber.”