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Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #280 on: August 01, 2013, 06:47:53 AM »
OK makes sense. Anyway yeah, of course we bring DL, etc.

You may have brought other ID, but did you present it?  If you had presented the license instead of the passport, you would have been asked for your license at permit pickup time.   :shaka:
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Coastierider

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #281 on: August 05, 2013, 11:22:47 AM »
Can you apply for two handguns when you go downtown? Or do I have to do it separately and wait 14 days in between?

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #282 on: August 05, 2013, 12:28:25 PM »
Can you apply for two handguns when you go downtown? Or do I have to do it separately and wait 14 days in between?

Apply for as many pistol permits to acquire as you need in one HPD visit.  All permits applied for on a given day will be ready for pickup in 2 weeks.  The more guns you buy at once, the more time and gas you save!!!    :D
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Coastierider

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #283 on: August 05, 2013, 01:26:57 PM »
How do you get them to mail the permits to you? I stopped by the post office and tried to get   " a self-addressed, certified restricted-delivery, pre-paid envelope (available at the U.S. Post Office) when coming for their initial application for permit" however the people at the post office had no clue what i was talking about.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #284 on: August 05, 2013, 02:07:25 PM »
How do you get them to mail the permits to you? I stopped by the post office and tried to get   " a self-addressed, certified restricted-delivery, pre-paid envelope (available at the U.S. Post Office) when coming for their initial application for permit" however the people at the post office had no clue what i was talking about.

You should be able to ask for a Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Envelope, with Certified Mail & Restricted Delivery services. 

If asked for a mailing date, give them the date you would have picked the permit up.

I went online and calculated the postage from Mililani to Honolulu.  Notice, the requested services are only able to be purchased at a Post Office, not online (no online prices).

. Address the envelope to yourself. 
. Put HPD in the From/Return Address. 
. Specify YOURSELF as the restricted delivery recipient.

It should be pretty easy to do.  Here's the calculated cost, if you want to take it with you.

Hope this helps!



"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Coastierider

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #285 on: August 05, 2013, 04:01:18 PM »
Thank You, Tired of driving downtown.

one2boost

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #286 on: August 15, 2013, 10:47:43 AM »
I hope someone could help me on this as I did not want to start another thread.

I want to purchase these 2 pistols from my cousin, a Smith and Wesson 9mm and a Cobray PM-9/11(note this is the California legal semi-auto version not the full auto version).  I know about the process of how to purchase handguns.  I already took the Hunters Ed class and waiting to receive the certificate showing I took this said class and be able to purchase a hand gun.  Keep in mind I already have the long gun premit as well.

The problem with my cousin's situation is, when he came back from the military 15 years or so ago,  he never registered these pistols.  From what he as told me, he bought these off of his squad leader at the time and the only paperwork he has is just a statement both parties signed stating party A sold these pistols to party B.  He wants to sell these pistols to me as he has no intrest in firearms anymore.  I don't ever recall him saying he punched a few rounds ever since he came back home.  In any case how does one get these pistols registered? 

I would guess my cousin would at the very least have to take the Hunters Ed class just to be qualified to register these pistols in his name.  Then just wait a few weeks and head down  to the police station for both of us to do the transfer, is that right?

BigDaddy31

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #287 on: August 19, 2013, 05:00:40 PM »
When you applied for the permit, did you present other photo ID (license, military, ...), or just the passport?  They may have needed it again for permit pickup because that's the ID you used when applying.

I used my DL plus birth certificate.  Don't tell me I have to bring my birth cert because I used that to get my passport. 

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #288 on: August 19, 2013, 07:19:32 PM »
I used my DL plus birth certificate.  Don't tell me I have to bring my birth cert because I used that to get my passport.

Okay.

I won't tell you.

 8)
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #289 on: August 19, 2013, 07:26:42 PM »
But seriously, everyone knows you need a BC to get a passport.  So which document you take is no big deal.  They are both proof of naturalization and identity.  The passport has your picture,too, so that one will be better anyway.
 
Have fun!

p.s.  If you have no more certified copies of your birth certificate, you might want to order a couple soon ... before you actually do need it.  Just my "be prepared" side talking!   :shaka:
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

BigDaddy31

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #290 on: August 20, 2013, 05:49:09 AM »
But seriously, everyone knows you need a BC to get a passport.  So which document you take is no big deal.  They are both proof of naturalization and identity.  The passport has your picture,too, so that one will be better anyway.
 
Have fun!

p.s.  If you have no more certified copies of your birth certificate, you might want to order a couple soon ... before you actually do need it.  Just my "be prepared" side talking!   :shaka:

Oh boy...might make the trip to town worthless then.  I had to submit my only copy of BC in order renew my passport.  I don't expect that to come back for another 4-6 weeks because I thought I wouldn't need the BC any longer.  Once I get the passport, I'm golden...oh boy

Kingkeoni

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #291 on: August 20, 2013, 07:28:16 AM »
Oh boy...might make the trip to town worthless then.  I had to submit my only copy of BC in order renew my passport.  I don't expect that to come back for another 4-6 weeks because I thought I wouldn't need the BC any longer.  Once I get the passport, I'm golden...oh boy

The birth certificate office is only a few blocks from HPD.

Spend $10 and get another copy.
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BigDaddy31

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #292 on: August 20, 2013, 07:42:19 AM »
The birth certificate office is only a few blocks from HPD.

Spend $10 and get another copy.
Ahhh, if it were but that easy.  Thanks for the advice but unfortunately I was born in Japan, Japanese hospital but naturalized citizen because my dad was in the Air Force.  To obtain a proper BC, I had to get that from the State Dept (Federal) which cost $50 and I had to wait 4-6 weeks for that.  Going to go down anyway, show my military ID and DL, hope for the best but expecting the worse.  The only good thing is that at least I know there's a way of getting the approved application mailed back instead of having to go all the way down again, just to pickup. 

Oh yeah, to obtain a copy of the BC is $50 a piece plus you're required to submit a notarized statement of that request.  Jeez, I should've asked for two but figured I only need just the one (sigh).
« Last Edit: August 20, 2013, 07:50:38 AM by BigDaddy31 »

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #293 on: August 20, 2013, 09:13:55 AM »
Ahhh, if it were but that easy.  Thanks for the advice but unfortunately I was born in Japan, Japanese hospital but naturalized citizen because my dad was in the Air Force.  To obtain a proper BC, I had to get that from the State Dept (Federal) which cost $50 and I had to wait 4-6 weeks for that.  Going to go down anyway, show my military ID and DL, hope for the best but expecting the worse.  The only good thing is that at least I know there's a way of getting the approved application mailed back instead of having to go all the way down again, just to pickup. 

Oh yeah, to obtain a copy of the BC is $50 a piece plus you're required to submit a notarized statement of that request.  Jeez, I should've asked for two but figured I only need just the one (sigh).

After you get your BC in hand, take it to the clerk of deeds and vital records.  Have them file a certified copy (usually free service).  Also, request some certified copies (probably need to pay for that).  That way, you don't shell out $50/copy.  Plus, if you ever need another copy, you can get it from a local agency.  Certified copies are just as good as an original.

I have all my vital docs, including military separation papers, certified and filed with the county clerk.

Hope that tip is helpful.   :shaka:
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

passivekinetic

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #294 on: August 20, 2013, 10:15:15 AM »
Can you certify copy ANY document from ANYWHERE or just US documentation?
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Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #295 on: August 20, 2013, 10:33:54 AM »
Can you certify copy ANY document from ANYWHERE or just US documentation?

If the document you present to the clerk is a verifiable original (raised seal, notary stamp, etc.), they will be able to certify the copy.  Country of origin should be a non-issue. 

Of course, sometimes it depends on who is helping you that day!  We all know how that goes, huh?

The only thing the clerk cares about the document is that it is an original ... not a copy.  They then create a certified copy.  The whole idea is, once that certified copy exists, you have an official "snapshot" of the original.  This by no means implies the clerk knows for a fact the document they copied is 100% authentic.  Only that the document you presented was an original, and it looked exactly like the copy they have on file.

This process was recommended for my DD214 Separation Form from the military.  You are given 2 onion-skin "originals" (carbon copies)  ... one with the type of discharge at the bottom, and one without.  Since it is a difficult, if not impossible, task for the government to provide a replacement, we were given the advice to have the DD214 registered with the clerk of deeds in our county and to keep certified copies for our own records.  Easy, quick, and relatively cheap "insurance" against loss of vital records.
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #296 on: August 20, 2013, 10:50:03 AM »
Can you certify copy ANY document from ANYWHERE or just US documentation?

One other thing, in Honolulu County, the Clerk of Vital Records only creates certified copies of birth, death, and marriage/civil union certificates.  Other records need to be filed with the Records Office:

http://www.processserverhawaii.com/files/Doc-Deed_Recording_Fees.pdf

Honolulu does charge, whereas my county where I separated from the military did not.

REGULAR SYSTEM:
    Recording Fee $25.00 per document up to 20 pages. $1.00 per page after initial 20 pages.
    Non-conforming fee (exceeds 8 1/2 x 11 inches and double sided) $20.00

Certified copies are $1 per page

It costs you once to file it (either $25 or $45, depending on the paper size), then $1 for each copy you get.

I recommend contacting the Records office and see if this information is still correct.  I would start there, and see whether they send you to the vital records office or not.
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

passivekinetic

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #297 on: August 20, 2013, 11:43:05 AM »
Thanks
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BigDaddy31

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #298 on: August 23, 2013, 07:17:16 AM »
I must have stepped into a big pile somewhere because I got real lucky on picking up my application.

When I went down to pick up my application after the requisite 14 days, I only had to show my DL.  The application clearly indicated I was born abroad (damn citizen part was crossed out, red circled w/the words "Born Abroad w/the document number).  Good part was that I just had to pull my DL out and nothing else so it wasn't a wasted trip (whew).  I was so concerned the guy behind the counter was going to ask for a look see on the BC again.  Reading through other postings, whatever documents you used when you originally filed will be asked again when you pick up.  I had to show my DL plus my BC when I originally filed. 

I was prepared to point out that if it had been mailed to me as outlined, the postal person would never ask for a BC, just proof of identity and I have two; a DL issued by the State of Hawaii and work ID issued by the Army. 

The only bummer of the day was getting to a store and finding out they ran out of Mossbergs...so sad.  Wanted to obtain the shotgun and go back to have it registered since I'm already in town.  Oh well...
« Last Edit: August 23, 2013, 08:45:22 AM by BigDaddy31 »

passivekinetic

Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« Reply #299 on: August 23, 2013, 07:44:05 AM »
Not really sure what you were saying but anyway, congrats on getting it all worked out!  :shaka:
"The sheep fear sheepdogs, because they fail to see the wolves."
- Anonymous