Your friend can loan the rifle to you, so there's no problem having it with you at the police station.  Can't loan handguns, but long guns are okay.

If you have the registration control number (G- number) from the friend's permit to acquire, it would help expedite things.

Very nice. I has planning on having him give me a copy of his registration when I buy his rifle. Is there anything else He would need to do other than give me the rifle and his info?

Very nice. I has planning on having him give me a copy of his registration when I buy his rifle. Is there anything else He would need to do other than give me the rifle and his info?

http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html

http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html

Ah! equally as nice!

Okay, let me run it down and as soon as I get the seal of approval from you guys I promise to stop asking! 

1. Pay friend for rifle and acquire rifle, along with rifle info and seller info.
2. Bring rifle and all the info collected(and my permit of course) in to register under my name.
3. Have friend fill out Police Commission Complaint Form and mail it in within 2 days.
4. ??
5. Happy shooting?

Did I get it right?

Hi guys,

I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.

I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)

To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.

I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?

Thank you

Hi guys,

I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.

I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)

To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.

I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?

Thank you

I'm not a atty but I'm sure that no matter which way you go you'll need to get a long gun permit at some point.  When I transferred my dad's old shotgun to my name I just brought a signed "letter of transfer" along with my lg permit to hpd and it went the same as registering any other long gun.  I really can't think of any other way for this to work the way you want it to without resorting to having to borrow the lg everytume you use it.  Perhaps one of the more experienced board members can think of a way.

Hi guys,

I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.

I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)

To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.

I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?

Thank you

From the ATF Form 4473, which your father would have to sign:

Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form?
Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you.
(See Instructions for Question 11.a.) Exception: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 11.a. and may proceed to question 11.b.

Depending on your interpretation, this could cause a problem.  Recently, Gabby Giffords' husband tried to buy an AR-15 using the excuse (after he made the news) that it was to demonstrate how quickly and easily buying one can be.  The shop owner saw the news, and because Giffird's said he intended to donate the rifle to an anit-gun group versus keeping it, the shop owner canceled the sale.  He cited the rule above, and stated the purchase was in violation because the gun was going  to someone who is not the actual buyer.

I'm not sure if there is a magic number of days to wait before doing the second transfer.  Just giving you a heads up.  Basically, YOU are the actual buyer.  Your father is acting as a go-between for the sake of convenience. 

Doing both transfers to him and you the same day could maybe raise a red flag.

Hi guys,

I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.

I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)

To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.

I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?

Thank you

You would still have to make two trips.

A) Yes your Father can buy lowers in his name with his long gun permit and transfer them to you at a later date, unless you are prohibited from firearm ownership.

B) On Oahu, in order for him to transfer them to you, you will have to have a valid long gun permit.

C) You can apply for the long gun permit and on the day you pick up the permit, have your Dad meet you there and transfer them to you.

This is perfectly legal and does not require an FFL.

You would still have to make two trips.

A) Yes your Father can buy lowers in his name with his long gun permit and transfer them to you at a later date, unless you are prohibited from firearm ownership.

Just ran across this and thought I'd post.   I would highly recommend not doing this.   There is a case before the US Supreme Court (Abramski v. United States) right now that will decide this very issue.  Abramski bought a Glock using his police discount and transferred it through an FFL to his uncle.   The ATF charged him with being a straw purchaser even though he did everything through FFLs in order to try and remain squeaky clean.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/abramski-v-united-states/

Do you have to go through the permit to acquire process for a private party person to person handgun purchase, or can you buy it and then go reregister similar to an out of state purchase?

Do you have to go through the permit to acquire process for a private party person to person handgun purchase, or can you buy it and then go reregister similar to an out of state purchase?

Standard practice for handgun purchases between Hawaii residents is:

1.  Meet seller and inspect handgun.  If satisfied, pay for the gun.  Seller retains possession to avoid you being in possession of a handgun not registered to you (can't loan handguns in Hawaii);  Get a receipt for payment detailing the handgun;  a copy of the sellers registration would help;
2.  You apply for the permit to acquire and wait 2 weeks.  Showing the previous owner's permit is helpful.
3.  After 2 weeks, both meet at HPD and do the permit pickup and final registration in one trip.  Buyer takes the gun with him/her.
4.  Seller submits the required paperwork to HPD so that weapon no longer shows registered to him/her.

Thanks D&J@T

I got a question. If I let my long gun permit expire, when I reapply on molokai do I need to pay the $16.50 again?

I got a friend that's going to the mainland to visit his in laws and will be given a few rifles.

When he gets back does he register them as out of state purchase or?
I hope he was smart enough to get his long gun permit before he left. If not, should he get his permit first then register it as out of state while his attorney holds onto the rifle? Or just register them as private transaction.

I got a question. If I let my long gun permit expire, when I reapply on molokai do I need to pay the $16.50 again?

Not sure about Molokai but Oahu it's free to renew.

Not sure about Molokai but Oahu it's free to renew.

Thanks bro thought that was kinda odd.  I'll be sure to specify I'm renewing and not getting a new permit when I go down.

I believe the 16.50 is the one time FBI fingerprint fee.

Thanks guys. The process is worse here, only open on select days.  I told her my permit expired and I tossed it and she still said I gotta pay.  Well see if I make it down tomorrow.
On a side note, payment must be in cashiers check or money order to Hawaii criminal justice data center
And hours/days are Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 9am-12pm and 1pm-4pm.

Does private sales to other islands have to go through a FFL?

Hey guys...sorry if its been already answered..but my eyes are killing me..lol!!

I wanna buy a handgun from a friend of mine, so a private sale.  What will I need from the owner when I go down to HPD to register?

Hey guys...sorry if its been already answered..but my eyes are killing me..lol!!

I wanna buy a handgun from a friend of mine, so a private sale.  What will I need from the owner when I go down to HPD to register?

I know it's your friend but most folks doing private sales will meet the seller at HPD to do the transfer, once you get your permit the seller has to sign the back of it.

When you go to apply for your permit to acquire you will need all of the pertinent information about the handgun being purchased, i.e. Manufacturer, Model, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Caliber, Country of Origin, ect. Probably the easiest thing you can do is bring a copy of the current registration form with you when you go to apply for your permit to acquire.

Hopefully you have not taken possession of the handgun yet have you?