Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination? (Read 16443 times)

eyeeatingfish

As it seems more and more likely that Trump will win the republican nomination to then face either Clinton or Sanders I find myself unsure of how I will vote.

Do I vote for Trump anyway as a way of keeping democrats away from the presidency or am I going to vote for a third party.
Maybe people avoiding Trump will be the start of the rise of power of the 3rd party success?

So if Trump wins, who are you considering as an alternative to voting for Trump? Vote Libertarian?

GZire

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 08:25:36 AM »
I would vote Libertarian given a reasonable choice and a reasonable chance that candidate would win, but unfortunately the least of the three evils would be Trump.  I'd have to vote for him because I think Sanders and Clinton are far worse choices.

oldfart

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 08:49:37 AM »
I had a very spirited debate with my son about this last night.
I think his college professors are warping his views on a lot of subjects including 2A rights.... But that's beside the point.
Anyway I told him that I really don't care for Trump but I dislike everybody else more. sigh :'(
What, Me Worry?

s197

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 09:04:19 AM »
The 3rd party would be Bloomberg. Talk about terrible choices, ugh...

Jl808

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 09:13:57 AM »
I will be voting for the R nomination as the lesser of evils.
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Drakiir84

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 10:07:44 AM »
Absolutely, he'd be the lesser of two evils and while voting for him would be a gamble at least it wouldn't be a guaranteed losing bet.
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Heavies

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM »
Same as above

Stay at home = vote for the "other side" (dark side)

robtmc

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 01:09:30 PM »
I will be voting for the R nomination as the lesser of evils.
It IS a lot more clear than with McCain or Romney.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 03:56:58 PM »
If Sanders gets elected, I wonder if it will end up pushing people right the next election. Sort of like how a mistake teaches us all a lesson?

I am seriously considering voting third party if Trump wins.

Saying that Trump is the lesser of two evils is kind of relative. It is like the crazy homeless guy on a street corner rambling about things. I might agree with his positions on the topics but in the end he is still a crazy person you wouldn't want to run the country.

Jl808

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 04:00:07 PM »
I don't think Bernie will get the D nomination.

A vote for 3rd party = a win for Hillary. 

Do you want the crazy that you didn't vote for or the crazy that you did?
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 04:27:36 PM »
I don't think Bernie will get the D nomination.

A vote for 3rd party = a win for Hillary. 

Do you want the crazy that you didn't vote for or the crazy that you did?

I still reserve optimism that Hillary will lose to Bernie.

The only reason that a vote for a third party means a democratic win is that people keep thinking that way. It is a self perpetuating myth, it is only true for the fact that people keep saying it.

If people stopped saying it, then you could see a rise of a third party.

robtmc

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 04:32:40 PM »
I don't think Bernie will get the D nomination.
But, but, Bernie got the endorsement of the Communist Party - USA! 

That has to count for a lot for a lot for the true believers!

Tom_G

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 08:41:31 PM »

The only reason that a vote for a third party means a democratic win is that people keep thinking that way. It is a self perpetuating myth, it is only true for the fact that people keep saying it.

If people stopped saying it, then you could see a rise of a third party.

A-fucking-MEN!!!!
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matt0137

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2016, 08:03:36 AM »
Trump! Not because he's the lesser of two evils, but because he's the best republican candidate on the stage. Here's why:
1. Business - We need someone that understands how the economy works. Senators do not. Few politicians do.
2. He's not a politician - how happy have any of you been with the republican establishment? People are supporting outsiders because they hate what's been going on. You don't get something new by electing yet another politician
3. Not PC - Everyone says they like the straight talk, but in my experience, when you give it to them they don't like it. If you want someone's measured talk, then elect another politician. They are great at telling you what you want to hear. Just don't be a hypocrite about it.
4. Executive experience - Governors have it, senators do not. Business leaders have it as well. Trump oversees a business network larger than many countries. He is much more qualified to lead our economy than anyone else on the stage.

I get very concerned when I hear conservatives talk about a third party as if it's a reality, or as some have said - give the country a leftist and see how they like it (implying they'll turn conservative by the next election). Really? I remember that being said 8 years ago when Obama got elected. 8 years later, we're saying it again when we're facing, in my opinion, an even more dangerous/liberal person for the dem nominee?

No - now is not the time to try and lay out some long-term strategy to try and build this third party, conservative movement and take short-term losses for long-term gains. Not this election. There is far too much at stake to even talk like that. If you're even thinking about not-voting, voting for a Dem, or voting third party just to "make a point", I hope someone is able to slap some sense into you between now and election day.

I understand the concerns about Trump. I have my own concerns, but they aren't that different than the concerns about each of the candidates. He wasn't my first choice, but he will win the nomination and he will be facing Hillary in the general. Get used to it.

GZire

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2016, 09:40:50 AM »
If Sanders gets elected, I wonder if it will end up pushing people right the next election. Sort of like how a mistake teaches us all a lesson?

I am seriously considering voting third party if Trump wins.

Saying that Trump is the lesser of two evils is kind of relative. It is like the crazy homeless guy on a street corner rambling about things. I might agree with his positions on the topics but in the end he is still a crazy person you wouldn't want to run the country.


The typical cycle is to swap between the two parties.  You don't often have 12+ years with the same party in the White House.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2016, 05:27:39 PM »
Trump! Not because he's the lesser of two evils, but because he's the best republican candidate on the stage. Here's why:
1. Business - We need someone that understands how the economy works. Senators do not. Few politicians do.
2. He's not a politician - how happy have any of you been with the republican establishment? People are supporting outsiders because they hate what's been going on. You don't get something new by electing yet another politician
3. Not PC - Everyone says they like the straight talk, but in my experience, when you give it to them they don't like it. If you want someone's measured talk, then elect another politician. They are great at telling you what you want to hear. Just don't be a hypocrite about it.
4. Executive experience - Governors have it, senators do not. Business leaders have it as well. Trump oversees a business network larger than many countries. He is much more qualified to lead our economy than anyone else on the stage.

I get very concerned when I hear conservatives talk about a third party as if it's a reality, or as some have said - give the country a leftist and see how they like it (implying they'll turn conservative by the next election). Really? I remember that being said 8 years ago when Obama got elected. 8 years later, we're saying it again when we're facing, in my opinion, an even more dangerous/liberal person for the dem nominee?

No - now is not the time to try and lay out some long-term strategy to try and build this third party, conservative movement and take short-term losses for long-term gains. Not this election. There is far too much at stake to even talk like that. If you're even thinking about not-voting, voting for a Dem, or voting third party just to "make a point", I hope someone is able to slap some sense into you between now and election day.

I understand the concerns about Trump. I have my own concerns, but they aren't that different than the concerns about each of the candidates. He wasn't my first choice, but he will win the nomination and he will be facing Hillary in the general. Get used to it.

Trump does have the most economic experience out of any of the remaining candidates, I will give you that.

But Trump is a salesman, they also are great at telling you what you want to hear. Frankly I don't know if I can trust him. For all I know he is a democrat in republican's clothing. He has been caught lying or changing his position on a lot of things already. I am not sure I can trust that he won't start a war with his mouth.

Thats why I preferred Carson. He was an outsider but an honest one but there is very little chance he can come back on top so I am not holding my breath.

I agree that the strategy should not be to chance a democrat as a lesson, that was just sort of a passing comment.

It is possible that Trump doesn't win the nomination though so maybe I can keep my fingers crossed on that.

edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2016, 09:25:10 PM »
I'll be voting for Trump.

Not because I think he's any kind "savior" of the GOP or conservatism, but because I think he represents a better choice than those put forth by the "donor class".

The GOP is about to collapse under the weight of its own neo conservative duplicity. I and many others are tired of having them piss down our backs and telling us it's raining.

He may not be perfect, but at least he's running as his own man, not a political puppet.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2016, 09:30:38 PM by edster48 »
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matt0137

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2016, 10:54:38 PM »
I'll be voting for Trump.

Not because I think he's any kind "savior" of the GOP or conservatism, but because I think he represents a better choice than those put forth by the "donor class".

The GOP is about to collapse under the weight of its own neo conservative duplicity. I and many others are tired of having them piss down our backs and telling us it's raining.

He may not be perfect, but at least he's running as his own man, not a political puppet.

Well said edster!

Ken Langone explained very well this morning on Cavuto's show what I've been thinking for quite awhile.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/03/02/home-depots-langone-sounds-off-on-2016-race.html




edster48

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2016, 05:32:42 AM »
Well said edster!

Ken Langone explained very well this morning on Cavuto's show what I've been thinking for quite awhile.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/03/02/home-depots-langone-sounds-off-on-2016-race.html






He's right, and the GOP would do well to listen.

If they had fought half as hard to keep Obama within Constitutional bounds as they are to keep Trump from being nominated, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's become obvious that their main concern is to keep the gravy train rolling, not what's best for the country or its citizens.

Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Who will you vote for if Trump gets the republican nomination?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2016, 05:39:28 AM »
I want to add that I think it is important that Trump needs to win or lose by the choice of voters through the political process. I don't want to see some back door technical loophole used to disqualify Trump. That could rip the party apart if soo many found that their vote ended up meaning nothing. They should

I hope Trump doesn't get the nomination but if he does then the republican party needs to honor the decision brought about by the democratic process.

I must say that I would like to see a competition between Hillary and Donald for the sake of entertainment and seeing who would come out on top, but I don't actually want that to be the outcome.