Obama's possible association with Bill Ayers is circumstantial at best. They may share some ideologies and may have hung out but I don't think that equates Obama to Ayers.

Obama's possible association with Bill Ayers is circumstantial at best. They may share some ideologies and may have hung out but I don't think that equates Obama to Ayers.

Not sure how valid eyewitness testimony is in a court of law.

What I mean is that even if they are buddies, that doesn't mean they are working towards the same ends or use the same means. Like if your friend were a liberal, it doesn't mean you are also one. It is like convicting someone because they were friends with a bad person.

What I mean is that even if they are buddies, that doesn't mean they are working towards the same ends or use the same means. Like if your friend were a liberal, it doesn't mean you are also one. It is like convicting someone because they were friends with a bad person.

Seriously? It's not a charge of "guilt by association", it's a charge of "guilt by statements and actions". It's merely pointing out the influence of and similarity to Ayers. Is Obama a clone of Ayers? No. Does what Obama says and does move the United States in the same direction toward the same ends as Ayers? Yes.

In short, we know now, even more than we did in 2008, that Ayers and Obama were close political allies, not just two people who happened to be thrown into a room together.  They were close enough to trust each other to fund their own work, and the work of their closest—and very radical—supporters.  And they recruited each other to foundation posts for precisely this purpose.

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More important, as I explain in Radical-in-Chief, Obama’s relationship to high-profile radicals like Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright is really just the tip of the iceberg.  Obama was part and parcel of Chicago’s vast circle of hard leftists, going far beyond Ayers and Wright.  The positions of these groups—on issues like health care, energy, immigration, urban affairs, and foreign policy—anticipates nearly every aspect of Obama’s current agenda, not to mention his divisive rhetoric and his administration’s techniques for silencing enemies.  The Obama of 1995 turns out to have been a better predictor of the present than the supposedly post-partisan Obama of 2008.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/381891/megyn-kelly-revisits-ayers-and-obama-stanley-kurtz

So what is the point of going after an Ayers and Obama conversation? He isn't running for reelection. In less than a year he will be gone.

I thought this thread was to discuss America and socialism?