anyone have any thoughts or experiences with an ar in 7.62 x 39? are there any manufactures out there that can produce an accurate and reliable weapon for this caliber without weaknesses of an ak, thanks.

One of the most accurate rifles I have ever had in a "AK" platform is the PTR91 chambered in 7.62X39.
Super accurate and 100% reliable for me.

Ultimak makes a quad rail and gas tube rail for the AK platform. It makes the AK every bit as "accessorizeable" as an AR type rifle.
I have used the Ultimak offerings with great success.

If accuracy in an AK is what you seek, I would highly recommend silver bear hollow point ammo (7.62X39)
This is by far the most accurate ammo I have ever used in 7.62X39.

I have owned AR's chambered in 7.62X39 but didn't like the limited magazine options so have since sold them.

A great compromise is the CMMG mutant. It is getting some great reviews.
I've never shot one but it definitely looks intriguing.

Get a MGI Hydra and have the ability to change to what ever caliber u want. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5, 22lr, 223/5.56, 50 beowulf, 450 bushmaster, 458 socom, 7.62x39. Can be done quick with a barrel swap, bolt change and correct magazine.

One of the most accurate rifles I have ever had in a "AK" platform is the PTR91 chambered in 7.62X39.
Super accurate and 100% reliable for me.

If accuracy in an AK is what you seek, I would highly recommend silver bear hollow point ammo (7.62X39)
This is by far the most accurate ammo I have ever used in 7.62X39.

KK so you are saying that a PTR 32 is an AK (platform) style weapon?

I have some silver bear that I got from speedy now I want to go shoot it.

The PTR91 and the PTR32 are HK G3 "pattern" or "platform" type of rifles utilizing a similar roller locking blowback. The 32 is chambered in 7.62x39 and utilize AK mags and the 91 is a .308 or NATO.

Ranier arms has a small store, but it's pretty cool
I will probably go at least every other time I go to Seattle, if not every time

I think they opened up their shop/operation after I left.

There were lots of good shops there and I used to shoot at one range in Bellevue/Redmond about once a week.  Most of the shops had a good selection of new and used guns.  I haven't been back to Seattle since 2008, but I'll try to swing by Rainer next time I visit.   

The PTR91 and the PTR32 are HK G3 "pattern" or "platform" type of rifles utilizing a similar roller locking blowback. The 32 is chambered in 7.62x39 and utilize AK mags and the 91 is a .308 or NATO.

I got you Surf I was just fact checking KK. The only thing AK about the PTR 32 is the fact that it uses AK mags.

I have a PTR 91 GI and I love it, it is currently my favorite rifle.

I want to buy a 32 in the future, I am also geeking hard on the Vz. 58.

I think they opened up their shop/operation after I left.

There were lots of good shops there and I used to shoot at one range in Bellevue/Redmond about once a week.  Most of the shops had a good selection of new and used guns.  I haven't been back to Seattle since 2008, but I'll try to swing by Rainer next time I visit.   

One of the cool things they have is a display where they have a bunch of different AR triggers to try out

I would love to own an HK 91 or G3, but the closest I'll likely get is the PTR 32. 

I haven't seen one listed for sale in a while, but from past listings, it seems like they went for around $900-950 ish with maybe as high as $1000.  That puts them in the Arsenal range. 

Any of you who own or have shot the PTR 32, any feedback or comparison between it an Arsenal AKs?

One of the cool things they have is a display where they have a bunch of different AR triggers to try out

That would just be dangerous for me. . . 

That and suppressors being legal would spell lots of $$$ being spent! 

at one time I really wanted a PTR91 or 32
they are supposed to be some very accurate rifles
I always wanted a HK91

anyone have any experience with the windam version?

KK so you are saying that a PTR 32 is an AK (platform) style weapon?

I have some silver bear that I got from speedy now I want to go shoot it.

Technically it's not but it takes AK mags, so it's part of the family.

The PTR91 and the PTR32 are HK G3 "pattern" or "platform" type of rifles utilizing a similar roller locking blowback. The 32 is chambered in 7.62x39 and utilize AK mags and the 91 is a .308 or NATO.

Actually, it is still a PTR-91, even if it's chambered in 7.62x39.

I actually own these guns and they're clearly printed PTR-91.

Is that one of the kit rifles built off of early PTR91 receivers?  I have heard of the rifles and some PDW's built off of these early 91's that were 7.62x39.  I think Ghilliebear or some other guy was putting them together off of these receivers.  I saw a few sold on gunsamerica or something like that.  I could be mistaken but it is my understanding is that they were not complete rifles from PTR, Ind.  Again not 100% on that, interesting however. 

I would not agree that since it takes AK mags that it's "part of the family", it is a different operating system.  Kind of like calling the Tavor a relative to the AR, or say a Kriss to a Glock.

I'm not 100% sure of why they're called what they are.

I had heard at one time that the PTR-91's are the rifles, while the PTR-32's were the pistols.

And yes the Tavor is in my "AR" family, along with my Sig 556 and SCAR 16. 

I own an ar15 x39, another ar15 x39 in progress and a ddi ak47.

Peicing the the arx39 was 3/4 of the fun. It shoots softer than my friends 5.56 and 300 blkout. I chose a midlength barrel. You may have to play with buffer weight ( I bought aluminum and steel rods of eBay ) and it currently has a .104" gas port diameter with a 5.5 oz rifle buffer. Shoots hella soft. Rifle weighs less than 7 lbs with a 20 round mag only 11 rounds inserted. (Never had more ammo at the time of weighing. Also had seekins scope rings on but no scope as I was still deciding. Accuracy wise I only had offset irons on but it atleast hits 10" circle target at 100 yards. Haven't been able to hit the range since then but I'll inform afterwards.

And spend the extra money if you go this route. Buy a lmt or Cason engineering bolt. It runs about 190 bucks each. Yea fucking expensive but I spent a couple months researching. ( lmt is just bolt and gas rings. Cason is bolt, rings and extended firing pin. When I say bolt I mean just that. Gotta buy your own carrier. I use fail zero m16 style). And yes mags are a hit and miss issue. I dremeled my mags and enlarged my feedramps. I have zero failures so far but I only have about 80 rounds so far lol. So "knock on wood"!  I only went kokohead to test fire this rifle and sight in my others. Nothing fancy yet. I do have a scope now but just no time to hit the range. When I do I'll post accuracy pics. So just be prepared to dremel your feedramps etc. don't be scared. Asc mags are the best imho. But you can research that if you decide this route.

Also haven't been able to shoot my ddi ak47 yet either. I just got my bolt back from them. I'm new to ak's so I was concerned bout my bolt having corrosion and the firing pin was stuck protruding the bolt face. Had to use a wooden dowel and my lil hammer to get it free. Good customer service though. He just told me to send it back. They supposedly cleaned it and sprayed fenocite on the outer and it looks a whole lot better.  I still had to wet sand my firing pin with 3000 grit and now it's so smooth and truly free floating!

Honestly speaking of I could go back I would build a 300 blkout instead. Only because hunting ammo in x39 (federal sp, Winchester Razorbacks) run about the same price as 300blk vortx hp/sp. and reloading would be easier since my friends reload 300 blkout. I only shoots brass x39 (roughly 11 bucks per 20 rounds) good shtf ammo price vs my old 6.8spc I use to have that were about a dollar a round for fmj.

Total cost of 1st ar x39 :1600 with mags scope etc.

Total cost of 2nd x39 : 1400 with mags and all

Total cost of ak47 so far :1100

But what's fun about buying a rifle that's complete? Just headache free sort of! I suggest headspacing if your piecing a rifle together. Supposedly the cone shape has something to do with pressure difference and steel cases don't expand as good. Which is why I only shoot brass. Cleaner too! Me lazy

Pm me if you have any questions .

Rock river lar7 has the ar15!style rifle in x39 that accepts ak mags. Duunoo if they still produce it though. I was looking for one when I decided to piece the damn thing together instead cause no one had it or could find a source for me. Fucking unicorn! Gunbroker may have some now that I'm not looking.

great report aaron, sounds like a winner