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556fun

300 win mag
« on: May 23, 2016, 01:06:08 PM »
any suggestions on a budget 300 win mag for use at kokohead - i was looking at the ruger model 16912 in their website - any idea what would be a good start up rifle :shaka:

 

ren

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 01:30:58 PM »
Budget does not relate well to a 300 WinMag unless you are shooting a few rounds on the weekend and not ringing gongs all day long.
It's like buying a Corvette with an 87 octane fuel budget.
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556fun

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 01:59:41 PM »
understood - any suggestions on a 300 or 308 that can bang away at 100 to 200 yards.  kinda figured cheap and 308 not in the same dictionary - just have no ideas on what to consider

 :shaka:

ren

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 02:06:07 PM »
I suggest looking at 300 win mag or 308 win ammo costs and looking at how many rounds you expect to shoot for a session.
A quick search http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/300-winchester-magnum-ammo?d=121&c=96&s=2860
shows that its about $1 per round without any other costs.
I have seen Remington 300 win mag rifles for a little over  $1000 and Savage rifles too. 300 win mag barrel life isn't as long as other calibers. Short lived. Live fast, die young.
If you plan on shooting steel, factor in the cost of it as well. I surmise that you will go through steel more often than a person shooting 22LR.
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Shots69

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 02:07:13 PM »
Savage makes a cheap 300winmag. I used to ring that gong at 440 all day with that. Now it just sits in the cabinet... Too much recoil to punch paper at 100yds

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oldfart

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 05:02:53 PM »
I reload 300 win mag for my friend. While practicing for an African safari, his leoupold scope mount cracked.
Leoupold sent him a replacement for free. Then he went on his trip. All this happened within the last 2 years.
While on his African trip, some part of his (sako?)rifle broke. He ended up borrowing a rifle for the rest of the trip.
I suppose the moral of this story is that the 300 is not something you want to shoot a lot of, unless you have a heavy type action rifle.
The rifles that immediately come to mind are the barret 98b and savage 110b.

I don't even want to tell you how much it cost to buy or reload the ammo.
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stangzilla

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 05:25:27 PM »
understood - any suggestions on a 300 or 308 that can bang away at 100 to 200 yards.  kinda figured cheap and 308 not in the same dictionary - just have no ideas on what to consider

 :shaka:

Ruger and Savage make some affordable 308 bolt actions
pretty decent for the price.  not the best, but a good place to start.
I got my RAR 308 for under $400 out the door

zippz

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 06:12:26 PM »
You can shoot 308 and 3006 at Puuloa range.  Can't shoot win mag there.

Bushido

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 07:29:23 PM »

You can shoot 308 and 3006 at Puuloa range.  Can't shoot win mag there.

Have they approved 6.5 Creedmore?


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eyeeatingfish

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 02:01:23 AM »
Why the interest in a 300 win mag as a range gun? Why not .308? You could even look at 300 blackout. I think I recall Ruger making an inexpensive bolt action 300 blackout. But again, I don't really know what you are getting at.

Surf

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 09:57:36 AM »
kinda figured cheap and 308 not in the same dictionary
If cheap and .308 aren't in the same dictionary then never mind ,300 win mag.  I don't even shoot my .300's or .338 due to ammo costs, unless if it is for specific reasons.

If this is a KKHD pinker, you are set to 100yds and even punching paper with a .308 is monotonous and gets costly.  I actually think a .22 is more challenging and fun and far less costly.

oldfart

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 10:18:00 AM »
understood - any suggestions on a 300 or 308 that can bang away at 100 to 200 yards.  kinda figured cheap and 308 not in the same dictionary - just have no ideas on what to consider

 :shaka:
...
556,
It's been fun reading the comments, but really, what is YOUR reason for wanting to shoot a 30 cal?
I can think of many reasons, but what is yours?
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556fun

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 01:56:29 PM »
First off - thank you everyone for your POV i definitely appreciate the your time to write in on this subject matter. 

ok OF, my interest in purchasing a .308 is part of expanding my personal experience in shooting different type of rifles and I was thinking of purchasing a 3rd caliber type. 

I realize the cost of ammo from a .22 to .223 and especially to a .308 is quite considerable.  my use would primarily be kkhd with hopes and anticipation of shooting at puuloa some day.  I used this forum to gain an insight what to look for as there appears to be a lot of experience and information one can gain from this site.  I've been in this sport for a very short period of time and am finding out quickly I suck at shooting pistols and have favored the .22 and 5.56/.223 rifles.  I've have also been reading bolt action rifles are more accurate than semi-auto's, so instead of buying another .223 with bolt action, that i would try a .308 bolt. 

In looking, I see savage and ruger rifles going for $400 to $500 but not really sure they're worth buying, or am i better off plunging the $1.5k and if so, what kind of .308 is worth the $1.5k.  and if the consensus was a $1.5k purchase, i might as well as wait until next year's christmas and hide the expense from my wife there.  LOL!  Seriously, if I could get away comfortably with a budget .308 I may get one probably after paying the private school tuition!

by the way, I am not looking to be a navy seal but more of a weekend warrior enjoying the sport / art of shooting a rifle.  as for hunting, no can do, i cannot even bring myself to kill anything with 4 legs and eyes. 

If I decide to get a .308, I may sell my ati or pistols to help also fund a .308 if i need to.  right now just asking and thinking!  Thanks again for everyone's your wisdom's




dustoff003

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 02:14:04 PM »
First off - thank you everyone for your POV i definitely appreciate the your time to write in on this subject matter. 

ok OF, my interest in purchasing a .308 is part of expanding my personal experience in shooting different type of rifles and I was thinking of purchasing a 3rd caliber type. 

I realize the cost of ammo from a .22 to .223 and especially to a .308 is quite considerable.  my use would primarily be kkhd with hopes and anticipation of shooting at puuloa some day.  I used this forum to gain an insight what to look for as there appears to be a lot of experience and information one can gain from this site.  I've been in this sport for a very short period of time and am finding out quickly I suck at shooting pistols and have favored the .22 and 5.56/.223 rifles.  I've have also been reading bolt action rifles are more accurate than semi-auto's, so instead of buying another .223 with bolt action, that i would try a .308 bolt. 

In looking, I see savage and ruger rifles going for $400 to $500 but not really sure they're worth buying, or am i better off plunging the $1.5k and if so, what kind of .308 is worth the $1.5k.  and if the consensus was a $1.5k purchase, i might as well as wait until next year's christmas and hide the expense from my wife there.  LOL!  Seriously, if I could get away comfortably with a budget .308 I may get one probably after paying the private school tuition!

by the way, I am not looking to be a navy seal but more of a weekend warrior enjoying the sport / art of shooting a rifle.  as for hunting, no can do, i cannot even bring myself to kill anything with 4 legs and eyes. 

If I decide to get a .308, I may sell my ati or pistols to help also fund a .308 if i need to.  right now just asking and thinking!  Thanks again for everyone's your wisdom's

Pistols are by nature harder to shoot well, I know I suck. If I practice I do better it helps to have knowledgeable friends or other helpful forum members to mentor you and let you know what could be improved upon. OF is one of the many here that will coach and mentor.

If you can try and make it to an HDF open shoot they announce their range days here on 2aHI, they are the last Saturday of the month https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23122.0
It's a good way to meet like minded others and sample others firearms.

JHanawahine

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 02:15:31 PM »
If not for hunting I would get something along the lines of a Kimber advanced tactical or Ruger precision.I like tikkas but for me I want lighter rifles to carry while hunting. cant go wrong with a 308.

oldfart

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 03:44:22 PM »
When I first bought pistols I sucked at it too. Nobody helped me to figure out why my target looked like a shotgun pattern.
Then one day a range officer gave me some tips and then it all started to make sense. I was hooked.
 Prior to that I only went bird hunting or shot 22 rifle. Handgun is much more difficult to master.

So nowadays I enjoy coaching newbie pistol shooters and also help people start reloading their own ammo, as my time allows.
I would gladly attempt to help you to not suck at pistol shooting. It's just a matter of finding time.
Maybe it will be easier when that xring range opens up.
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556fun

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 03:49:10 PM »
When I first bought pistols I sucked at it too. Nobody helped me to figure out why my target looked like a shotgun pattern.
Then one day a range officer gave me some tips and then it all started to make sense. I was hooked.
 Prior to that I only went bird hunting or shot 22 rifle. Handgun is much more difficult to master.

So nowadays I enjoy coaching newbie pistol shooters and also help people start reloading their own ammo, as my time allows.
I would gladly attempt to help you to not suck at pistol shooting. It's just a matter of finding time.
Maybe it will be easier when that xring range opens up.
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OF - at least your's looked like you hit it even though it was a shotgun pattern.  I went home last sunday with splinters in both hand - i hit the frame more than the target and the spaces in between the targets

zippz

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 04:02:57 PM »
Shooting rifles and pistols are about equal in difficulty, it's just that shooting a rifle with optics at 100 yards from a comfy bench isn't the equivalent of shooting a pistol at 25 yards.  I'd say shooting with iron sights at 300 yards from the prone or 100 yards standing would be the equivalent.  It's finding ways to challenge and improve yourself.

zippz

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 04:22:25 PM »
I'd recommend 308 in a bolt if you already have semiautos.  308 can go out to 1,000 yards, useable at almost any range and training facility and competitions,  has manageable recoil, wide selection of ammo and guns, easy to get ammo, and is fairly affordable.  I've heard he Remington 700 police or SPS models are good quality and value under $1,000.  The other $500 can go towards a good scope and accessories.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 04:27:36 PM by zippz »

drck1000

Re: 300 win mag
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 05:08:52 PM »
Like many mentioned above, I rarely shoot my 308 anymore largely due to ammo costs.  Another big part is lack of interest in punching paper at 100 yards.  It was really fun to hit (or try to hit) those smaller steel out beyond 200 yards. 

You can probably still get a decent Rem 700 for the $600-700ish range.  I think my SPS was around $575 in 2012 or so.  Expect to spend at least that amount for glass.