to me, sounds like you are wanting an entry level bolt gun
Ruger, Savage, Winchester makes some good ones to name a few
they can be had for under 500, my Ruger American was under 400.  its plenty good enough for punching paper at Kokohead
if you want better quality rifle and its in your budget, go for it!

I can understand your desire to shoot a bigger caliber, or just something different
I feel the same way about rifles and handguns.  I don't need a 44mag handgun, but I enjoy shooting it a lot. 
sometimes you just want to shoot something bigger, nothing wrong with that.

good luck in your quest.   

...by the way, I am not looking to be a navy seal but more of a weekend warrior enjoying the sport / art of shooting a rifle.  as for hunting, no can do, i cannot even bring myself to kill anything with 4 legs and eyes. 

any thoughts on a remington 700 SPS varmint or ruger vortex - but if you think its a waste of money no problem there too!

thanks again for chiming in!

 

Quote from: oldfart on May 24, 2016, 03:44:22 PM

OF - at least your's looked like you hit it even though it was a shotgun pattern.  I went home last sunday with splinters in both hand - i hit the frame more than the target and the spaces in between the targets

....
Sounds like you need some intervention here.
I suspect that if your pistol target looks that bad, you might need some fundamental marksmanship help.
If we can get your pistol shooting to improve, I'll bet your rifle shooting will improve also because the handgun seriously magnifies fundamental marksmanship problems.
Then you might find your ar15 rifles much more interesting.
The ar pattern rifles are also the typical rifle of choice for the puuloa club shoots.
Guys improve the long range accuracy of the ar type rifles by handloading the ammo.
If you're seriously bitten by the shootin' bug, I suggest looking into loading your own ammo before getting into a 30 cal. Rifle.

Sorry about busting your lamb chops a bit, but are ya a Vegan?

Am I vegan lol that's a good I got more than a few pounds to lose to be considered vegan! 

Nah I just don't think I can kill an animal - punks who choke, hurt, scare old ladies on the other hand maybe a different story! 

By the way if you anymore of them uncooked lamb chops - cook'em up and I'll bring the mint jelly!


Not that there is anything wrong with that.....
Remington SPS is a good rifle for its price.  All that I have seen are true sub MOA shooters, usually less and a simple stock swap can drop them to a 1/2 MOA shooter with quality match grade ammo.  Of course as mentioned, you can get away with an OK rifle, but don't want to go too cheap on the optic.  You can easily spend twice as much or more on the optic.

....
Sounds like you need some intervention here.
I suspect that if your pistol target looks that bad, you might need some fundamental marksmanship help.
If we can get your pistol shooting to improve, I'll bet your rifle shooting will improve also because the handgun seriously magnifies fundamental marksmanship problems.
Then you might find your ar15 rifles much more interesting.
The ar pattern rifles are also the typical rifle of choice for the puuloa club shoots.
Guys improve the long range accuracy of the ar type rifles by handloading the ammo.
If you're seriously bitten by the shootin' bug, I suggest looking into loading your own ammo before getting into a 30 cal. Rifle.

Good morning OF - intervention yes is definitely needed!  Marksmanship on rifles, pistols, spending time every week visiting gun shops drooling over everything including cotton swabs lol!  Yes def need intervention on this addiction - especially reloading - just ran out of empty cases to load!

Thank goodness I didn't take up knitting

Have a great day guys!


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Good morning OF - intervention yes is definitely needed!  Marksmanship on rifles, pistols, spending time every week visiting gun shops drooling over everything including cotton swabs lol!  Yes def need intervention on this addiction - especially reloading - just ran out of empty cases to load!

Thank goodness I didn't take up knitting

Have a great day guys!


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many of us will attest that OF is an extremely patient teacher, both in pistol shooting and reloading
i would suggest taking him up on his offer
and coming out to shoot at hdf range days and/or HRA/LIFE fun shoots
hdf is the last saturday of every month and HRA/LIFE is the last sunday of every month, so this weekend
let me know if you want more details

many of us will attest that OF is an extremely patient teacher, both in pistol shooting and reloading
i would suggest taking him up on his offer
and coming out to shoot at hdf range days and/or HRA/LIFE fun shoots
hdf is the last saturday of every month and HRA/LIFE is the last sunday of every month, so this weekend
let me know if you want more details
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thank you mac - i will probably hit up the july hdf range day - will be in kauai this weekend taking my son to a jr golf tournament and to ucla in june - but def on this board for more great info and advice. 

extremely appreciative for everyone's feedback and insights!

 

many of us will attest that OF is an extremely patient teacher, both in pistol shooting and reloading
i would suggest taking him up on his offer
and coming out to shoot at hdf range days and/or HRA/LIFE fun shoots
hdf is the last saturday of every month and HRA/LIFE is the last sunday of every month, so this weekend
let me know if you want more details

...
I enjoy helping out newbies. my problem is finding the time.

Quit being so selfish OF and quit your job so you can help more newbs!!! 

thank you mac - i will probably hit up the july hdf range day - will be in kauai this weekend taking my son to a jr golf tournament and to ucla in june - but def on this board for more great info and advice. 

extremely appreciative for everyone's feedback and insights!

yeah, i started this sport with a ATI and liked shooting 5.56/.223 so much that i bought a mk114 pws and really enjoy that rifle very much.  so got to thinking of trying a starter .308 and if I liked that I would then consider upgrading to good .308.  I just dont know what its like shooting a bigger caliber gun.  on the other hand I was watching this girl shoot a .308 or similar caliber a couple of weeks ago and with every 100 yard shot she took a second later i hear the clank of her steel target.  damn! 

any thoughts on a remington 700 SPS varmint or ruger vortex - but if you think its a waste of money no problem there too!

thanks again for chiming in!

 

556,

No disrespect meant but I see many newer shooters get into buying all sorts of guns. I get it as a new shooter it's exciting and fun to shoot anything and everything. There really is a lot of different disciplines in shooting ie. Tactical, precision, target, hunting etc... My recommendation would be to shoot the crap out of what you have and be proficient with them. Figure out what type of shooting you're leaning towards than buy guns tailored to that discipline. Like many sports, you can't buy skill. Practicing proper fundamentals and techniques will be far more worthwhile than owning a safe full of guns.


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Went window shopping today discovered one thing i definitely not going ever consider a .270 rifle - at $2.25 a shot fuhgettabouit! LOL!

Went window shopping today discovered one thing i definitely not going ever consider a .270 rifle - at $2.25 a shot fuhgettabouit! LOL!