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ren

Rap Back!
« on: May 23, 2016, 09:14:49 PM »
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Heavies

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 12:42:40 AM »
"It happens 20X a year......"

Seriously?  :wtf:
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omnigun

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2016, 06:35:45 AM »
Hope if this is signed it will be sued to oblivion on the first day
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punaperson

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2016, 06:47:30 AM »
I posted the Associated Press site publication of the story in the Legal and Activism section post of the FBI biometric database before I read this thread.

From that post:

And I wasn't aware of this tidbit:

"We were only discovering things by accident," said Honolulu Police Department Maj. Richard ["Get a big dog"] Robinson, who helped draft the bill. "They happen to come register another firearm, we run another background check, and then we find out they're a prohibited person."

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Hey, Robinson, is everyone supposed to take their big dog with them when they attend rock concerts and office Christmas parties and inside movie theaters and inside college classrooms, etc.? Just askin'...
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ren

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2016, 07:01:00 AM »
I think the state has a bigger problem with work furloughs and prison escapees. Let's enroll them in a federal biometric database so just in case they escape they can find them....
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mrgaf

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2016, 08:13:19 AM »
Well I don't plan on getting any more guns... And won't give them HPD dooshbags a penny of my money either🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
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ren

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2016, 08:59:19 AM »
Quote from: mrgaf on May 24, 2016, 08:13:19 AM
Well I don't plan on getting any more guns... And won't give them HPD dooshbags a penny of my money either🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

I think that is the real purpose of this bill. Tracking gun owners is one goal - the longer strategic goal is to discourage firearms ownership
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aieahound

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 10:11:33 AM »
^ I agree.
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oldfart

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 10:54:31 AM »
Quote from: ren on May 24, 2016, 08:59:19 AM
I think that is the real purpose of this bill. Tracking gun owners is one goal - the longer strategic goal is to discourage firearms ownership
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Obviously
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mrgaf

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 11:49:45 AM »
Quote from: ren on May 24, 2016, 08:59:19 AM
I think that is the real purpose of this bill. Tracking gun owners is one goal - the longer strategic goal is to discourage firearms ownership
Agree...in my case I don't have the room and I got what I want. However what remains to be seen is how they plan to collect this "pig fee"' when you go to register a gun/ apply for permit, will it be a one time or per gun fee or they see you're a gun owner and will mail a demand for payment or else letter. How will the amount of this fee be determined? Would it be a one time fee like the finger printing....
Read the article and some liberal mealy mouth pond scum law prof @ UH said it will probably be challenged in court but will likely fail since SCOTUS determined earlier that states have the right to regulate firearms. Don't know if this is true or not but I would think that if the PRH tries that approach then this law could be exposed as a cover to regulate rather than a criminal tracking tool to see if an individual still is qulified to posses a firearm. Not that thier intentions would change anything since a lot of gunowners in this state lack backbone and just go along in thier silly complacency "kumbayah" world.
Interesting times we live in. Next thing will be special taxes on firearms and ammo....
« Last Edit: May 24, 2016, 11:54:55 AM by mrgaf »
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nathanm14fan

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 11:59:36 AM »
The Truth About Guns is running an article on this as well, and they highlight the potential that this "rap-back" law would be against the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986.

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No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/05/robert-farago/breaking-hawaii-set-create-federal-gun-registry/

Nathan
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macsak

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 12:07:21 PM »
Quote from: nathanm14fan on May 24, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
The Truth About Guns is running an article on this as well, and they highlight the potential that this "rap-back" law would be against the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/05/robert-farago/breaking-hawaii-set-create-federal-gun-registry/

Nathan

true
this is why HRA is likely going to sue if this bill is signed into law
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mrgaf

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 12:33:07 PM »
Quote from: macsak on May 24, 2016, 12:07:21 PM
true
this is why HRA is likely going to sue if this bill is signed into law
Will be seeding a check to help in the fight!
By the way just sent a letter to Kealoha, "Get a big dog" Robinson, Caldwell and "squiggly" Ige to kiss my arse and take what ever fee they try to impose and stick it up thier collective asses. They will not get a dime from me.... Damn I'm a cranky old S.O.B. 🖕🏻 them!
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To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.

stangzilla

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 02:49:37 PM »
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mamalukino

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 02:57:24 PM »
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stangzilla

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 03:33:35 PM »
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dustoff003

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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 04:20:16 PM »
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whynow?

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 05:34:59 PM »
Quote from: stangzilla on May 24, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
email Ige
Done and also had e-mailed IGE to veto SB2954 on the state gov. site.
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556fun

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 07:07:36 PM »
emailed Ige to veto sb2954 - Done!
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mrgaf

Re: Rap Back!
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 08:43:07 PM »
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To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.  Thomas Paine.

No man can get rich in politics unless he is a crook.  It cannot be done. Harry Truman

Only good liberal is one taking a dirt nap.
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