Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again (Read 20602 times)

drck1000

Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« on: June 15, 2016, 07:36:54 AM »
Do you have guns that you wouldn't buy if you go back?  If you knew then what you know now?

For me, I wouldn't buy my LMT MRP and HK USP Compact.  Both are excellent guns, but either I just prefer other guns or they were what I thought I wanted at the time, but not really anymore.

For the HK USP Compact, it's a 40 and one of the main reasons I don't shoot that gun much anymore is cost of ammo.  That and there are other guns in my safe that I prefer shooting.  That was the first gun I ever bought and I don't think I'd sell it.  But it's one of the last guns in my safe for consideration for taking to the range. 

For the LMT, it's a VERY solid gun, been 100% reliable and a good shooter.  However, being a solid and well built gun, it's also pretty heavy.  So while I still shoot it every so often, my preference is my Colt and BCM that are WAY lighter.  I don't regret buying it as it is a really good gun, but if I could go back in time, I wouldn't buy that same gun. 

Jl808

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 08:58:04 AM »
I haven't bought that many to have an answer to this question. 

So far, I like all that I bought and would buy them all again.  No buyer's remorse yet.
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jcw556

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 11:14:54 AM »
Hate to admit it but, a long time ago I bought a Lorcin 380 semi. Didn't own it very long, and didn't fire it much because it usually didn't cycle two consecutive rounds without jamming. Upgraded to a sig p230.

Also bought a dpms 3g1 lr308. Never had a 308, and wanted one. Great gun if you're in 3G competition or defending your home from zombie hoards. Fun to shoot. More gun  than I needed. Replaced it with a Marlin 336 in 30-30.

Live and learn. But always experiment.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 11:37:27 AM »
Sig  (GSG rebranded) 1911-22

Had to spend $150+ more to fix or replace all the parts that prevent consistant accuracy.  Once zeroed, it would lose zero depending on several factors, including ammo type.

I'd rather have used that money toward a "real" 1911 in 9mm or .45acp.  If you have young kids, it's an ok 1911 trainer for teaching how to operate it without the ammo cost or physical strength needed to shoot larger calibers.  But, if the accuracy is left  alone using factory parts, the kids will quickly tire of a gun they can't hit a 25 yd target with.

Oh, and the finish seems to be sub-par for a "Sig" product (they didn't manufacture it, so...).  Too easy to scratch, and it wears quickly where parts touch.
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Inspector

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 11:58:15 AM »
Bought a used High Standard .22 "Victor II" target pistol from an out of state dealer at a gun show. It was manufactured by Mitchell Arms. It was a piece of crap. I didn't know what I was getting into when I bought this thing. Most High Standards are truly the standard for which all other target pistols aspire to be. That is until Mitchell Arms bought them out. I didn't know that at the time of purchase. Even the gunsmith couldn't fix it's issues. I learned my lesson. Sold it for parts. Fortunately, I didn't pay much for it so I didn't lose much when I sold it. Too bad as it was the most accurate .22 pistol I have ever shot.  :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

I currently own 3 Hi Standards which were built during the company's best years. Those guns will be with me until I die.  ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016, 12:10:06 PM by Inspector »
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robtmc

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 12:06:00 PM »
Mini-14 and Mossberg 500. 

Ruger was hilariously inaccurate,  trying to dial in a scope was a farce, there was not a discernible group to move.

Mossberg stiff and clunky compared to the smooth as silk action of a Remington 870.

They scared me, so got rid of them a long time ago.

556fun

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 12:45:12 PM »
Bought a used High Standard .22 "Victor II" target pistol from an out of state dealer at a gun show. It was manufactured by Mitchell Arms. It was a piece of crap. I didn't know what I was getting into when I bought this thing. Most High Standards are truly the standard for which all other target pistols aspire to be. That is until Mitchell Arms bought them out. I didn't know that at the time of purchase. Even the gunsmith couldn't fix it's issues. I learned my lesson. Sold it for parts. Fortunately, I didn't pay much for it so I didn't lose much when I sold it. Too bad as it was the most accurate .22 pistol I have ever shot.  :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

I currently own 3 Hi Standards which were built during the company's best years. Those guns will be with me until I die.  ;D ;D ;D

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Inspector

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 12:55:28 PM »

I got stung by a sig mosquito


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If I remember correctly they had frame (cracking) problems?
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oldfart

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 01:01:33 PM »

I got stung by a sig mosquito
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Good one :thumbsup:
I was at the range a few years ago and watched a shooter struggling with a mosquito.
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passivekinetic

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 03:42:14 PM »
My Glocks!!!!

All crap!!!





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556fun

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 05:04:50 PM »
If I remember correctly they had frame (cracking) problems?

Should've bought a stove for the excessive stove piping - it's all good but u have to use only HV ammo!


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ren

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 05:52:18 PM »
DPMS
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Heavies

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2016, 12:10:21 AM »
I love all my guns.  If I could buy more guns without getting rid of some, I would keep everyone I purchased.  Sadly, some of the less used or less practical got sold to get others. Haven't really got burned with any one gun so far. 

oldfart

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2016, 07:37:01 AM »
Sw mod 19, too fragile
M1 garand, too big for dainty me
Marlin camp9, not very well designed and discontinued
Ruger 10.22 not particularly user friendly
Ruger super Blackhawk, uncomfortable with full loads
Ruger mk 1 22 pistol or any gun that doesn't lock back on the last shot
What, Me Worry?

punaperson

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2016, 08:10:37 AM »
Well, it wasn't exactly a "gun", but the M1A1 Abrams got really crappy mileage.

 :D

Edit: "wasn't"
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 09:05:01 AM by punaperson »

drck1000

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2016, 08:25:27 AM »
I haven't bought that many to have an answer to this question. 

So far, I like all that I bought and would buy them all again.  No buyer's remorse yet.
Not really buyers remorse for me.  I am happy with the guns and luckily no lemons or major problems.  Biggest problem was a DD gun where the grip screw was off so only the grip it came with fit without Macgyvering, but even that wasn't bad.  Each gun was the best fit for what I wanted at the time or thought I needed. 

Maybe you need to buy more guns and see if you find something to give you buyer's remorse.   :P [I keed, I keed]

Hate to admit it but, a long time ago I bought a Lorcin 380 semi. Didn't own it very long, and didn't fire it much because it usually didn't cycle two consecutive rounds without jamming. Upgraded to a sig p230.

Also bought a dpms 3g1 lr308. Never had a 308, and wanted one. Great gun if you're in 3G competition or defending your home from zombie hoards. Fun to shoot. More gun  than I needed. Replaced it with a Marlin 336 in 30-30.

Live and learn. But always experiment.
I've heard of Lorcin, but never saw one in person let alone shot one. 

That DPMS looks awesome if we had 3 gun courses in the 200+ yard range.  Maybe even further.   :thumbsup:

drck1000

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2016, 08:29:00 AM »
Sig  (GSG rebranded) 1911-22

Had to spend $150+ more to fix or replace all the parts that prevent consistant accuracy.  Once zeroed, it would lose zero depending on several factors, including ammo type.

I'd rather have used that money toward a "real" 1911 in 9mm or .45acp.  If you have young kids, it's an ok 1911 trainer for teaching how to operate it without the ammo cost or physical strength needed to shoot larger calibers.  But, if the accuracy is left  alone using factory parts, the kids will quickly tire of a gun they can't hit a 25 yd target with.

Oh, and the finish seems to be sub-par for a "Sig" product (they didn't manufacture it, so...).  Too easy to scratch, and it wears quickly where parts touch.
Yeah, 22 pistols are awesome trainers.  My M&P 22 is one of the first guns I let people shoot from my collection.  Pretty accurate right out of the box and easy for even those with very poor hand strength to operate. 

Bought a used High Standard .22 "Victor II" target pistol from an out of state dealer at a gun show. It was manufactured by Mitchell Arms. It was a piece of crap. I didn't know what I was getting into when I bought this thing. Most High Standards are truly the standard for which all other target pistols aspire to be. That is until Mitchell Arms bought them out. I didn't know that at the time of purchase. Even the gunsmith couldn't fix it's issues. I learned my lesson. Sold it for parts. Fortunately, I didn't pay much for it so I didn't lose much when I sold it. Too bad as it was the most accurate .22 pistol I have ever shot.  :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

I currently own 3 Hi Standards which were built during the company's best years. Those guns will be with me until I die.  ;D ;D ;D
What issues did you have with the Victor II?  Functioning? 

drck1000

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2016, 08:31:44 AM »
Mini-14 and Mossberg 500. 

Ruger was hilariously inaccurate,  trying to dial in a scope was a farce, there was not a discernible group to move.

Mossberg stiff and clunky compared to the smooth as silk action of a Remington 870.

They scared me, so got rid of them a long time ago.
I've heard mixed reviews of the Mini-14.  I've never shot one, but I doubt I would every buy one. 

I do recall that the actions of some of the recent production 870s not being that great.  They would often bind up.  They were newer guns at the time and maybe they just needed some time to work in. 



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drck1000

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2016, 08:36:11 AM »
I love all my guns.  If I could buy more guns without getting rid of some, I would keep everyone I purchased.  Sadly, some of the less used or less practical got sold to get others. Haven't really got burned with any one gun so far.
I should look to sell some guns before buying more, but just can't seem to get myself to do so. . . 

Sw mod 19, too fragile
M1 garand, too big for dainty me
Marlin camp9, not very well designed and discontinued
Ruger 10.22 not particularly user friendly
Ruger super Blackhawk, uncomfortable with full loads
Ruger mk 1 22 pistol or any gun that doesn't lock back on the last shot

M1 Garand big and dainty?   ???

Is the Marlin Camp 9 the one that accepted pistol mags?  I was looking at one many years ago, but didn't care for the handgun that it accepted the mags for, which IIRC was a Ruger P89 or something like that. 

drck1000

Re: Guns You Wouldn't Buy Again
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2016, 08:36:46 AM »
Well, it was exactly a "gun", but the M1A1 Abrams got really crappy mileage.

 :D

The cost per round would probably be cost prohibitive for most.  Haha