California "Gun Control" Laws Up for Vote Tomorrow... Coming Soon to Hawaii? (Read 13109 times)

punaperson

I wouldn't be the least surprised to see at least a few, if not all, of some version of these proposed laws appear in the next Hawaii legislative session. Forewarned is forearmed. Unless you've been disarmed. Then you're pretty much totally screwed.

The following is an email from California Assemblyman Brian Jones about the votes tomorrow. Read 'em and weep. The Dems in California have a large majority, not as big as Hawaii (no place else could hope to match this "progressive" paradise... lowest voter turnout and very low overall education level of the populace. Of course in California a significant number of the Dem voters don't even speak English...), so the bills have a high probability of passing the Assembly:

Tomorrow, Thursday, June 30, the Majority Party of the California State Assembly will be attempting to swiftly pass a sweeping number of bills that would further restrict the individual rights, provided by the US Constitution, of lawful owners of firearms and rifles throughout our state. This was a last-minute maneuver [bills with totally different content and subject matter, not gun related, were gutted, all text deleted, and the new anti-gun text was inserted] to force these bills through with limited transparency and dialogue. As you would guess, I will be voting against all of these. If you do not live in East County, I encourage you to contact your Assemblymember and encourage them to vote against these measures.

Here is a list of bills and a brief summary:

SB 880 (Hall) – all firearms with detachable magazines = prohibited assault weapons

SB 894 (Jackson) – creates a crime for failure to report stolen firearm within 5 days and/or report recovery of the firearm within 48 hours.

SB 1235 (De León) – amends Newsom’s initiative – requires a separate background check each time ammunition is purchased or transferred [Give a friend a round at the range, go to jail!]

SB 1446 (Hancock) – criminalizes possession of “large-capacity magazine” no matter when or how acquired.

AB 857 (Cooper) – requires person who manufactures or assembles a firearm to first apply for and receive a unique serial number from DOJ

AB 1511 (Santiago) – prohibits loaning of firearms.

SJR 20 (Hall) – calls for federal study on “gun violence.”

AB 1135 (Levine) - Assault weapons - bans firearms with bullet buttons

AB 1673 (Gipson) - Requiring registration of gun parts -

AB 1695 (Bonta) - Making it a crime to falsely report your gun was lost or stolen and making that crime subject to a 10-year prohibition on owning/possessing firearms

AB 1674 (Santiago) – Limits all guns, not just handguns, to one purchase a month

bass monkey

Rainbow boy has already said that he thinks we need guidelines for buying ammo at the meeting, so mass shooters cannot stockpile ammunition.
Willie had also made references towards it.

whynow?

Didn't Willy make mention of ammo laws like Kali?   He kept on saying nobody wants to ban guns but didn't mention about banning ammo.
If the Kali laws pass, Kali will have the highest amount of "felons" in the nation.
HI will try to copy, because DONKEYS see, DONKEYS do.

punaperson

Most of the bills passed today. Here is a photo of the gloating morons [EDIT: sorry, I left it out earlier as I got distracted by seeing the head moron say that stupid stuff. ]. I use that word advisedly, as the Senate President Pro Tem Kevin De Leon is on the left, famous for his claim that a "ghost gun" with a "30 caliber clip has the ability to disperse 30 bullets within half a second. 30 magazine clip in half a second.".  :rofl: He's authoring and making laws about guns.  :crazy: I wouldn't be the least surprised to see some of the same crap here next January.





These passed today:

AB 1664 (Levine & Ting): AB 1664 would extend the definition of an assault weapon to include all semi-automatic rifles and pistols with a removable magazine and that use “bullet button”. For example, an AR-15 would be included in this.

AB 1673 (Gipson): AB 1673 would take the definition of a firearm and extend to it include any unfinished frames or receivers that can be converted into a weapon. This bill could make any object that is associated with a firearm subject to the same regulations that apply to firearms.

AB 1674 (Santiago): AB 1674 would add to the current restrictions that are placed on an individual in regards to how many firearms they can purchase in a 30 day period. Current law states that only one handgun can be purchased in this time period but if this legislation is passed, long guns would fall under this restriction as well.

AB 1695 (Bonta): AB 1695 would require the Attorney General to send individuals a pamphlet regarding all firearm laws, how to safely store your weapon, and gun trafficking. This measure would result in wasteful government spending as criminals will not be receiving these pamphlets, only law-abiding gun owners who are already aware of this information.

AB 2607 (Ting): AB 2607 would allow an employer, coworker or mental health worker to file a restraining order on an individual to keep them from owning a gun. This individual would not be allowed to defend themselves until 21 days later. In this time, they would have their right to bear arms stripped from them, regardless if the claims were true or not..

SB 1235 (De León): SB 1235 requires background checks for ammunition purchasers, licenses to sell ammunition, and collection of sale information. Restrictions on ammunition purchases, creates a DOJ database of ammunition owners. Bans internet / out of state ammunition purchase.

SB 880 (Hall, Glazer): SB 880 redefines assault weapons to encompass specified guns capable of accepting any type of detachable magazine. Bans common and constitutionally protected firearms that have magazine locking devices.

SB 1446 (Hancock): SB 1446 prohibits the possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Confiscation of lawfully acquired, standard capacity magazines that can hold over 10 rounds.

SB 894 (Jackson): SB 894 requires the reporting of a lost or stolen gun within 5 days of when a person knows or reasonably should have known of the theft or loss. Victimizes victims by criminalizing the failure to report lost and stolen firearms.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2016, 03:41:08 PM by punaperson »

All_rice

That's horrible.  I wouldn't doubt seeing it introduced in Hawaii.  We nee that non profit that's in the other thread!
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Heavies

What really needs to be done is stop them before it even gets to that point.  Trying to fight these laws in the courtroom is like trying to piss upwind.

Get registered to vote, get everyone you know registered to vote, VOTE 2A as the first issue that concerns you.

edster48

Heavies is right.

If you don't want this to happen here, if you want real change in our state and the C&C, get your ass into the voting booth and get people like Espero, Hirono, Schatz, and Ige out of our government.

The only problem is that the republican party is even weaker than the libertarians in this state. What we need to do is stage a Trump style takeover of the party here and toss all the deadwood out. Guys like Sen. Slom can't stay in office forever, more's the pity. We need some new blood.
Always be yourself.
Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

macsak

Gov brown signed today

Most of these bills were on a different topic and were gutted and re-written beyond public comment
Everyone needs to realize that this is entirely legal here in Hawaii during "crossover" in "conference committee "

We must be vigilant at all times, people
Or else rap back is going to seem minor


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ren

the rap back initiative was just a litmus test for Hawaii legislators.
I foresee next year worse bills along the lines of Cali.
Deeds Not Words

s197

So an AR-15, is now an "assault weapon" does that mean they are banned in CA now?

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macsak

the rap back initiative was just a litmus test for Hawaii legislators.
I foresee next year worse bills along the lines of Cali.

i agree
bloomberg and his people are going to smell blood in the water...

s197

Nevermind misread the post.

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punaperson

Details of each bill have links at the site:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/robert-farago/breaking-california-governor-brown-signs-vetoes-gun-control-bills/

California Governor Jerry Brown has wielded his executive pen on the raft of gun control measures informally known as “Gunpocalypse.” Brown signed the following bills:

AB 1135 – “Assault Weapons” Ban

AB 1511 – Criminalizes Loaning Firearms

AB 1695 – Expansion of Prohibitions and Threatening Letters from DOJ to Gun Owners

SB 880 – Expands “Assault Weapons” Ban to Include “Bullet Button” Semi-Auto Rifles, Pistols

SB 1235 by Senator Kevin De León (D-Los Angeles) – Ammunition

SB 1446 – Ban on ALL Magazines that were Designed to Hold More than 10 Rounds

Governor Brown vetoed the following bills:

AB 1673 – Expands Definition of “Firearm” to Include Non-Firearm Materials

AB 1674 – Expands the 30-day purchase limit to all firearms; deletes the “private party” exemption

AB 2607 – Expanding Gun Violence Restraining Orders

SB 894 – Mandatory Law Enforcement Reports for Lost or Stolen Firearms

Hat tip: Firearms Policy Coalition

ren

and these are the same people who pass laws in regards to to other facets of our society. Imagine the issues of abortions, women's rights etc. Fucking morons. All dressed up with titles as lawmakers with little going on in their minds.
Deeds Not Words

punaperson

and these are the same people who pass laws in regards to to other facets of our society. Imagine the issues of abortions, women's rights etc. Fucking morons. All dressed up with titles as lawmakers with little going on in their minds.
Neither critical thinking skills nor being honest about the (non)effects, easily foreseen "unintended consequences" and/or true goals of legislation they propose and vote for has never been a requirement for public office. And that will never change. It works just the way they like it as it is. That's why Hawaii also has no recall, no term limits, no initiative, nor any referendum possibilities that could possibly attempt to hold the politicians even slightly accountable.

robtmc

That background check to buy ammo is nasty.  At least owners in Calif. have the option of traveling to Nevada or Arizona to pick it up.

Banning possession of all those 20-30 round magazines.  Somehow I do not foresee a massive turn-in happening any time soon.

punaperson

That background check to buy ammo is nasty.  At least owners in Calif. have the option of traveling to Nevada or Arizona to pick it up.

Banning possession of all those 20-30 round magazines.  Somehow I do not foresee a massive turn-in happening any time soon.
I'm sure all the people who do not "turn them in" will transfer them to another state, as prescribed by law.  :rofl:

All_rice

Was speaking to an older gentleman about the new Cali laws.  He has a bunch of hand guns and rifles, but still would not come out and support anything 2a.  Said if the make them in Hawaii we have to follow them.  WTF!?! I really don't get it.  Passive local attitude??
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ren

Was speaking to an older gentleman about the new Cali laws.  He has a bunch of hand guns and rifles, but still would not come out and support anything 2a.  Said if the make them in Hawaii we have to follow them.  WTF!?! I really don't get it.  Passive local attitude??

on a different subject but similar attitude.
A friend of mine is a member of union 1260 and asked about his opinion of the leadership doubling dues and nepotism.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31931528/exclusive-union-paid-business-manager-relatives-more-than-600k
He said that its only $200 a month and its not worth anything to be concerned about.
Deeds Not Words

edster48

Was speaking to an older gentleman about the new Cali laws.  He has a bunch of hand guns and rifles, but still would not come out and support anything 2a.  Said if the make them in Hawaii we have to follow them.  WTF!?! I really don't get it.  Passive local attitude??

The plantation mentality. Generations have been raised on it. It's why the dimocrats have been in power for 50 years. Keep your head down, don't make waves or you'll piss off the boss. Take what they give and don't complain, remember to say thank you so they don't feel like you're ungrateful.
If Ige were to declare all guns illegal tomorrow these people would be down at the firearms division 15 minutes early to turn in their firearms, just to make sure they wouldn't be late to give up their rights.

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Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.