I think like many others my line in the sand is when they try to take anything away.  Cause I aint giving anything up.

What would you do though? Hide your guns somewhere? Barricade yourself? If you knew they were going door to door taking all firearms, what would you do?

I am thinking I would hide my guns and plead the 5th when they ask where they are. As of right now I don't think I would be ready to have a shootout.

The tipping point is when my boat tips over and all my crap is lost at sea. 

What would you do though? Hide your guns somewhere? Barricade yourself? If you knew they were going door to door taking all firearms, what would you do?

I am thinking I would hide my guns and plead the 5th when they ask where they are. As of right now I don't think I would be ready to have a shootout.

Omnigun,

I suggest you don't reply in a public forum to his questions. I believe these questions are wholly inappropriate and if anything were to happen can be used against you later.

None of us here want to suggest that we would in any way want to commit any acts of violence against any law official.

If we are to discuss where we would draw the line in standing up for gun rights then the next logical step is to discuss what actions would be taken when the line is crossed.

so that's why i asked if you would take the oath

Omnigun,

I suggest you don't reply in a public forum to his questions. I believe these questions are wholly inappropriate and if anything were to happen can be used against you later.

None of us here want to suggest that we would in any way want to commit any acts of violence against any law official.

Have to agree sorry eye.  I'm all about pleading the 5th.  In the end who knows what actions they will take when it happens. 

I don't know if this qualifies, but my tipping point will be when the state tries to ban so called "assault weapons"
"high capp magazines", and all "semi auto" firearms, etc. I can almost see them calling for people to turn them in now, or els!
I think it will come from the state because it'll never fly at the national level as long as the republicans control congress.
 As far as what i would do, i would move to a state that better suites my beliefs. I'm going to buy me a place in the boonies,
and hope the reaper gets me before it all goes to shit!

I did ask for detail. Refer to post #34.
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23830.msg214098#msg214098

Obviously you are not very good at reading comprehension either. Yes, you did ask for detail. But on purpose you conveniently ignored the rest of what I said. "I do not believe you are genuinely curious as to the type of action I would take. The reason I don't believe you is because as soon as I said one little thing you started debating/arguing with me trying to use your non-applicable analogies. Actions speak louder than words. Someone who is genuinely curious would ask me for more detail. Not try and debate/argue my statements. BTW, that is trolling behavior." What don't you understand about that? Asking for detail and then when "...I said one little thing you started debating/arguing with me....". How many times do I have to repeat myself before you understand? Did you get a hold of some bad drugs or are you trolling. I choose trolling.

If you don't want to talk about it any more then fine I won't bother you anymore,

DING DING!!!! Get that man a Cupie Doll!!! Why does it take several posts for you to finally quit being dense and stop?

but my question was on the original topic.

How do you figure? The question was where does one draw the line. Nothing more nothing less. Another false statement on your part.

If we are to discuss where we would draw the line in standing up for gun rights then the next logical step is to discuss what actions would be taken when the line is crossed.

To you maybe it is the next logical step. But through your narcissistic haze did it ever occur to you that after several tries at not answering you and trying to get you back on topic that I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? It takes two people to have a discussion. When one of those two OBVIOUSLY does not want to talk about a particular topic, do you really think trying to force the other to have your discussion is a good thing? Maybe you should go for counseling. Part of being narcissistic is you have no manners and never considers the other person you are wanting to have a conversation with. To be honest it looks like you are desperate to do anything to have a conversation.

I am not trolling, I am not changing the subject, I am addressing a directly related issue.

I guess I should add delusional to your repertoire.

Now, will you please quit posting crap and get 

So here is a question for everyone if you so choose to answer:

If you wait until they start confiscation or pass confiscation legislation before you draw the line, isn't that a little too late? Havn't they already won by that point?

so that's why i asked if you would take the oath

Would I take an oath to protect the constitution? Yes. I don't know about from the website you mentioned though, didn't agree with some of the stuff on their main page.

Have to agree sorry eye.  I'm all about pleading the 5th.  In the end who knows what actions they will take when it happens.

I cannot disagree with the logic in that. It is an honest answer as well.

So here is a question for everyone if you so choose to answer:

If you wait until they start confiscation or pass confiscation legislation before you draw the line, isn't that a little too late? Havn't they already won by that point?

No, I think at that point, people who care will

1.  choose non-compliance,
2.  comply but then work to oust the people passing said laws or at least get the laws repealed, or
3.  give up and live with whatever form of firearm the state says is "adequate" for the public to own and still be Constitutionally passable.

This state is a hopelessly Liberal sheep farm.  "No make stink" should be the state motto!

Now, that's at the state level.  If the Feds start confiscations, that's a totally different animal.  I trust the NRA and other national groups to continue working to defend our rights at that level.  I wish we had as strong an organization as the NRA-ILA working to repair Hawaii's gun laws.

Omnigun,

I suggest you don't reply in a public forum to his questions. I believe these questions are wholly inappropriate and if anything were to happen can be used against you later.

None of us here want to suggest that we would in any way want to commit any acts of violence against any law official.

Not to mention that most of the stuff he types make it seem like he is popo

[quote author=Inspector link=topic=23830.msg214484#msg214484 date=1468033334
How do you figure? The question was where does one draw the line. Nothing more nothing less. Another false statement on your part.[/quote]

I will answer only the points you made as questions.
Because a line is meaningless without knowing what happens if you cross the line. Remember when Obama drew the line for Syria and then when it was crossed Obama did nothing?

To you maybe it is the next logical step. But through your narcissistic haze did it ever occur to you that after several tries at not answering you and trying to get you back on topic that I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? It takes two people to have a discussion.

I'll be honest with you, I did not realize you wanted to avoid the topic. I am not the best with subtle conversation to begin with and when you add on the fact that internet forums lack other forms of communication that a face to face conversation offers. The only thing I clearly got was that you thought it was off topic. When you gave the recommendation to Omni, that was clear and I understood exactly that you didn't want to discuss that topic and why.

You don't have to answer my comments if you don't want, but that is my explanation. Maybe that will shed a little light in why my posts are the way they are. Consider me of a nerd or some sort.

To answer your other question, no I do not think it is too late to draw the line after a confiscation ordinance is passed. That would be a galvanizing event I think, something big people could rally around.

Not to mention that most of the stuff he types make it seem like he is popo

Others seem to feel the same as you do. 

Others seem to feel the same as you do. 

Maybe thats what I want you to think 

Maybe thats what I want you to think 

Don't you have a bridge to guard somewhere?

Don't you have a bridge to guard somewhere?

He looks like a cop more then a troll.

The internet is a hell of a tool.

He looks like a cop more then a troll.

The internet is a hell of a tool.

The 2 are not mutually exclusive!

Cops do troll the web hoping to draw out the bad guys!

 

Would I take an oath to protect the constitution? Yes. I don't know about from the website you mentioned though, didn't agree with some of the stuff on their main page.

you already took an oath to protect the constitution
see article iii
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/pdfs/StandardsofConduct-10-16-2015-11-07-55.pdf

would you take an oath to not obey these orders?
https://www.oathkeepers.org/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/

you already took an oath to protect the constitution
see article iii
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/pdfs/StandardsofConduct-10-16-2015-11-07-55.pdf

would you take an oath to not obey these orders?
https://www.oathkeepers.org/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/