Sent this email to the atf
Is it legal to transfer a homemade ar 15 lower ( from 80% blank) to another individual who is legally allowed to own a firearm? If so do you have to put a serial number on it and are there other steps that must be completed?

This is what I got back
 Thank you for your inquiry to the Firearms Industry Programs Branch (FIPB).  If you made a firearm from a blank receiver as an individual then you can sell the firearm to an individual that is not prohibited from owning/possessing.  For your information if you are making this a course of business/livelihood then you are required to obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL).

 

I hope I have answered your question.

 

Thank you,

 

Dawn Smith, Program Manager (IOI)

Firearms Industry Programs Branch (FIPB)

304-267-1994

I am going to hpd tomorrow to have the portion of my registration on my homemade lower that states it is not transferable removed I will let you know what happens.

ATF requires these when a home made is transferred  :


with a min of :
 Height 1/8"
 Depth 1/32"
or laser engraved





Manufacture Name
City    State
"Unique Mark"

KEALOHA
HON HI
0001CC

Went to hpd talked to the Sergeant. He asked me to emailed him a copy.He said once he gets confirmation from the official. He will redo the registration for the 80% lower. I will keep you updated.

Went to hpd talked to the Sergeant. He asked me to emailed him a copy.He said once he gets confirmation from the official. He will redo the registration for the 80% lower. I will keep you updated.

Great work !!!!!  Saved HPD from a lawsuit.

ATF requires these when a home made is transferred  :


with a min of :
 Height 1/8"
 Depth 1/32"
or laser engraved

Damn, that is some deep engraving, .030"...................

Doubt one of those little buzzer engravers will go that deep?

Damn, that is some deep engraving, .030"...................

Doubt one of those little buzzer engravers will go that deep?

Sorry 1/64

or

laser

ATF specs are 0.0625" (1/16") high and 0.003" deep.  You need a fiber laser to get that deep on most metals.   

ATF specs are 0.0625" (1/16") high and 0.003" deep.  You need a fiber laser to get that deep on most metals.

you are right , my head must have been messed up

ATF specs are 0.0625" (1/16") high and 0.003" deep.  You need a fiber laser to get that deep on most metals.

Dunno what a fiber laser is, but it would seem like something not in the workshop of most guys making aluminum 80% lowers, hence, not many get marked?

Dunno what a fiber laser is, but it would seem like something not in the workshop of most guys making aluminum 80% lowers, hence, not many get marked?

you can use a hand held engraver,

What was the final outcome of this?
Also I'd like to clarify... can I hold on to my non-registered personal build for a while? Do I HAVE to register it right away?

I'll bet that Universal Mfgr in Kalihi can engrave it any way you want.
They have the laser equipment.
Aloha

I'll bet that Universal Mfgr in Kalihi can engrave it any way you want.
They have the laser equipment.
Aloha

I'll take that bet. Universal Manufacturers can not do LASER engraving.

I'll take that bet. Universal Manufacturers can not do LASER engraving.

more amps...

How about engraving the same info on a polymer lower? Can a 20 watt laser do it? Is a metal tag needed for the serial no.? 

Needs to be registered once made however I haven't heard back from hpd about removing nonot transferable going down Monday.

I'll take that bet. Universal Manufacturers can not do LASER engraving.

   

I don't know much about 80% requirements, but make sure you meet both Federal and State requirements.  HPD only enforces the state requirements.

I don't know much about 80% requirements, but make sure you meet both Federal and State requirements.  HPD only enforces the state requirements.

HPD only enforces their opinions on state requirements.