Hawaii will just make the law here say, All people wishing to carry in the state  must complete X amount of training a year and be certified by a Hawaii state instructor and then make it impossible to get certification, Just like they do with LEOSA

I agree with Mac, that you can get a non-resident permit from another state to use in Hawaii


"valid  license  or  permit  which  is  issued  pursuant  to  the  law  of  a  State  and  which  permits  the  person  to  carry  a  concealed  firearm 
Means you can have a permit from any State
or 
is  entitled  to  carry  a  concealed  firearm  in  the  State  in  which  the  person  resides,
This appears to be for constitutional carry states that don't issue a permit 
may  possess  or  carry  a  concealed  handgun"

EDIT:  I'm sure the AG's office will say that the State can chose between the two clauses and go with the 2nd one where Hawaii doesn't issue permits.

They also include a section where if Hawaii (or other anti-gun State) interferes with this, you can sue them in court and will win damages and attorney fees like how the Federal law protects firearms manufacturers from fraudulent lawsuits.

It's going to need the support of 8 Democrat Senators to pass.  It's possible but it's going to be tough to pass.  I'm pretty sure Schatz and HIrono will be against it 100%

Hawaii also passes this test

1.  has  a  statute  under  which  residents  of  the  State  may  apply  for  a  license  or  permit  to  carry  a  concealed firearm

2.  does  not  prohibit  the  carrying  of  concealed  firearms  by  residents  of  the  State  for  lawful  purposes.

I don't think there are any no issue states anymore

Hawaii will just make the law here say, All people wishing to carry in the state  must complete X amount of training a year and be certified by a Hawaii state instructor and then make it impossible to get certification, Just like they do with LEOSA

Possible.  But we could carry with another state's CCW permit and skip the whole Hawaii CCW process.  If the AG or police want put up roadblocks or start arresting people, let them.  They will lose in court per the Federal Law, and have to pay damages.  Sounds like easy money to me.

What they could do is eliminate Hawaii's CCW statute.

Hawaii will just make the law here say, All people wishing to carry in the state  must complete X amount of training a year and be certified by a Hawaii state instructor and then make it impossible to get certification, Just like they do with LEOSA

What if Im not a resident of Hawaii?
Just here for the winter months or vacationing?

Possible.  But we could carry with another state's CCW permit and skip the whole Hawaii CCW process.  If the AG or police want put up roadblocks or start arresting people, let them.  They will lose in court per the Federal Law, and have to pay damages.  Sounds like easy money to me.

What they could do is eliminate Hawaii's CCW statute.

How would the security company protect the cash they transport?
CCW are issued to security personnels.

How would the security company protect the cash they transport?
CCW are issued to security personnels.

Security companies have open carry permits.  Just eliminate the concealed carry portion of the law so that the Hudson Bill doesn't affect Hawaii.

So far seems like a good bill.  Especially the portion of awarding reasonable damages for wrongful CCW charges from the state.

It would suck for people visiting Hawaii, they would still have to register their firearms.  So I hope they look up our laws before carrying here.

What if Im not a resident of Hawaii?
Just here for the winter months or vacationing?

You have to still register  your firearm.  You have 5 days to do so.

It would suck for people visiting Hawaii, they would still have to register their firearms.  So I hope they look up our laws before carrying here.

Maryland, New York, DC and California have similar registration laws.

You have to still register  your firearm.  You have 5 days to do so.

 actually 3 day and it only a petty misdemeanor!!


HRS134-17 (b)  Any person who violates section 134-3(a) shall be guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

actually 3 day and it only a petty misdemeanor!!


HRS134-17 (b)  Any person who violates section 134-3(a) shall be guilty of a petty misdemeanor.

crime involving a firearm, No guns for you

tourist

What if Im not a resident of Hawaii?
Just here for the winter months or vacationing?

Thats fine you can carry here if your vacationing with your CCW, You just have to met. Just like LEOSA

Wouldn't suprise me if HPD starts taking firearms from people registering out of state guns for 14 days till your background checks are done.

Wouldn't suprise me if HPD starts taking firearms from people registering out of state guns for 14 days till your background checks are done.

I don't see that happening since there is no basis in the law to do so. The 14 day waiting period is a purely arbitrary "cooling off" period which (for now) is legal. Background checks are done through NICS which are typically received in  minutes or hours.

I don't see that happening since there is no basis in the law to do so. The 14 day waiting period is a purely arbitrary "cooling off" period which (for now) is legal. Background checks are done through NICS which are typically received in  minutes or hours.

In Hawaii the 14 days is to allow them to contact state health and your doctor as well as the BG check.

Who says it needs to be in the LAW, HPD does shit all the time thats not in the law.
 For example. requiring you to present a firearm for inspection at registration,
Requiring you to sign the rapback waiver for a permit.
Requiring you to provide your home address on a registration/permit even if you have a business address.
Requiring you to provide your doctors name and address. 

all of wich is legal untill some one gets a court to say its not.

Also requiring a permit to register a firearm.

Also requiring a permit to register a firearm.

Maryland requires this.  If you want to register a handgun you already own, you apply for a permit and give the firearm to the police to hold on to.  Once your permit is cleared, the police give back the gun and then you register it.

I'm traveling to Maryland next week and wanted to bringing my gun.  I looked at the gun laws there and I changed my mind.