Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates: DENIED June 26, 2017 (Read 35383 times)

SOLEsource684

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2017, 04:04:37 PM »
In his testimony, he said Heller was the 'law of the land' so if he is true to his word we might actually get the result the 2A community has been waiting decades for. That being said I won't hold my breath.

Cheers!

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2017, 04:59:50 PM »
In his testimony, he said Heller was the 'law of the land' so if he is true to his word we might actually get the result the 2A community has been waiting decades for. That being said I won't hold my breath.
All the Circuit Court judges that ruled against concealed carry being a right that is infringed by "discretionary" "good cause", etc. requirements that result in "no issue", or de facto "almost no issue" all agree(d) that Heller is the "law of the land", but... Heller doesn't say anything clear and definitive about carry outside the home, so until SCOTUS clarifies the entire situation regarding carry (open and concealed) outside the home all the judges will continue to claim they are respecting Heller and ruling in accord with the provisions of it. We won't know Gorsuch's view until he might have the chance to rule on such a case.

SOLEsource684

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2017, 07:33:36 PM »
All the Circuit Court judges that ruled against concealed carry being a right that is infringed by "discretionary" "good cause", etc. requirements that result in "no issue", or de facto "almost no issue" all agree(d) that Heller is the "law of the land", but... Heller doesn't say anything clear and definitive about carry outside the home, so until SCOTUS clarifies the entire situation regarding carry (open and concealed) outside the home all the judges will continue to claim they are respecting Heller and ruling in accord with the provisions of it. We won't know Gorsuch's view until he might have the chance to rule on such a case.

Valid points indeed.

Heavies

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2017, 09:53:53 PM »
Thank you for the updates Puna, I am following you for sure!

nathanm14fan

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 07:35:26 AM »
Peruta is rescheduled for conference on 13 April. By Friday morning we should know whether or not they will take the case. With Gorsuch now on the court, keep your fingers crossed!  :shaka:

Mar 8 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 24, 2017.
Mar 23 2017    Rescheduled.
Mar 27 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 31, 2017.
Mar 30 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 10 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 13, 2017.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docketfiles/16-894.htm

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2017, 10:40:20 AM »
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docketfiles/16-894.htm

Apr 10 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 13, 2017.
Apr 12 2017    Rescheduled.

Not gonna even speculate what this means, but... no, I said I wasn't going to do that. See ya all next week, again.

zippz

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2017, 12:12:57 PM »
Maybe the reschedule is to give time for Goruch to come on board.  I see it as a good thing.

PeaShooter

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2017, 04:46:41 PM »
Actually I think cases being rescheduled in general is an indicator they are much more likely to be accepted. Doesn't mean they will be. With every relisting the odds increase.

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 06:18:32 AM »
Mar 8 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 24, 2017.
Mar 23 2017    Rescheduled.
Mar 27 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 31, 2017.
Mar 30 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 10 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 13, 2017.
Apr 12 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 17 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 21, 2017.

The fourth time is the charm?

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2017, 06:37:55 AM »
Mar 8 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 24, 2017.
Mar 23 2017    Rescheduled.
Mar 27 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 31, 2017.
Mar 30 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 10 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 13, 2017.
Apr 12 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 17 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 21, 2017.
Apr 20 2017    Rescheduled.

Fifth time is the charm?

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2017, 05:25:43 PM »
Mar 8 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 24, 2017.
Mar 23 2017    Rescheduled.
Mar 27 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of March 31, 2017.
Mar 30 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 10 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 13, 2017.
Apr 12 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 17 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 21, 2017.
Apr 20 2017    Rescheduled.
Apr 24 2017    DISTRIBUTED for Conference of April 28, 2017.

RSN172

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2017, 08:36:12 PM »
Should make a forum pool and lay odds on it being rescheduled again, how many more reschedules, etc, etc.
Happily living in Puna

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2017, 05:55:25 AM »
Should make a forum pool and lay odds on it being rescheduled again, how many more reschedules, etc, etc.
Including whether Gorsuch will sign on to the dissent of denial of cert now being written by Thomas.

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2017, 07:17:47 AM »
Because the last four "reschedules" of Peruta occurred on the Thursday prior to the Friday conference for which it had been scheduled, today is that day in this fifth scheduling. I've checked the SCOTUS page for Peruta and nothing yet, but wonder if it is rescheduled again if it will appear today or not until Friday morning, just like the "Distributed for conference" notifications are dated on Monday but not posted on the website until Tuesday morning.

Is this thing getting drawn out or what? And even if they do grant cert there are no more oral arguments scheduled until the next term begins in October. Almost like some overly dramatic script is being followed...

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 06:17:45 AM »
Peruta was NOT rescheduled, so they are discussing it in conference right now. We will find out its fate early Monday morning. It can be granted cert, denied cert, or "relisted" for another conference. It's only been nine years so far...

MuffinMan

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 09:07:42 AM »
Peruta was NOT rescheduled, so they are discussing it in conference right now. We will find out its fate early Monday morning. It can be granted cert, denied cert, or "relisted" for another conference. It's only been nine years so far...


Fingers crossed and then double crossed. :popcorn:

Thanks for the ongoing updates. :shaka:

aieahound

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 09:26:11 AM »
Thanks for the ongoing updates. :shaka:

+1  :shaka:

6716J

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 01:21:34 PM »

Fingers crossed and then double crossed. :popcorn:

Thanks for the ongoing updates. :shaka:

 :shaka:
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2017, 05:46:07 AM »
And the decision is... (trumpets blaring)... no decision (wah wah wah). That's right, nothing. It's not on the "orders list" released today of cases denied or granted cert, nor disposed of in any other manner. What that (likely... today is a "holiday" for the court so it's website has not been updated with the order yet) means is that the case has been "relisted" for a future conference (most likely the next conference, on May 11). "Relisted" means they discussed the case in conference and postponed a decision until further discussion in a future conference, as opposed to the previous "Rescheduled" which means it was postponed from even being brought up in conference.

According to what I read this can mean 1. There is some possibility that the case will be granted cert but the "sides" are not completely settled and more discussion/persuasion is in order and/or 2. the case "sides" are settled and the case will be denied cert, but at least one justice dissents from the denial to the extent they are writing a dissent opinion and need time to finish it, as the dissent is issued simultaneously with the denial order.

In other words, no one has a friggin' clue what is going on except those nine justices (no clerks, secretaries, etc. are allowed to attend the conferences, though it's likely some of those people know what's going on, at least generally).

See ya in two weeks unless some good rumors are posted somewhere and I think other Peruta geeks might find them interesting.  :geekdanc:

punaperson

Re: Peruta cert petition to SCOTUS ongoing updates
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2017, 05:51:02 AM »
Not posted at the early hour I expected, but...

May 8 2017   DISTRIBUTED for Conference of May 11, 2017.

So now... ONE WEEK!