"The US Marine Corps has made the decision to ensure that all Marines have the best magazine available. Going forward, Magpul’s PMAG GEN 3 has become the official magazine, giving Marines that extra advantage to stay alive and lethal in a firefight."
"The military put the PMAG GEN 3 through years of testing, and thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds. And what did they find? No stoppages."
"In battery after battery of military testing over the course of several years, the PMAG GEN M3 relentlessly dominated the competition. In tens of thousands of rounds, there were zero magazine-related stoppages and it performed better than any other magazine. "

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/01/12/marines-get-groundbreaking-unstoppable-new-rifle-magazine.html

uh oh

Haven't tried any of the Gen M3. I typically use USGI from select manufacturers. I have a bunch to last me for a while.

When I saw this and other articles about switching, I wonder how much cost factored into the negotiations/decision.


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Is the gen 3 pmags  better than the lancer mags

Is the gen 3 pmags  better than the lancer mags

Lancers are superior. Polymer body with steel feed lips.

People including military arms channel on YouTube have stated that their older pmags are starting to have their polymer feed lips warp. I mean it's only a $12 replacement, but I like usgi and lancers.

Lancers are superior. Polymer body with steel feed lips.

People including military arms channel on YouTube have stated that their older pmags are starting to have their polymer feed lips warp. I mean it's only a $12 replacement, but I like usgi and lancers.

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Untill they have gone through the same level of testing we will never know.

Lancers are superior. Polymer body with steel feed lips.

People including military arms channel on YouTube have stated that their older pmags are starting to have their polymer feed lips warp. I mean it's only a $12 replacement, but I like usgi and lancers.

I've used a couple of Lancers in a class last year that I borrowed from a friend. I bought some late last year and am planning on testing them out more. I was impressed with the ones that I borrowed. They are kinda pricey though. 

I like that I can see how many rounds left with the translucent body, especially during a class. Not essential to me since I'm used to USGI mags, but I found that useful.


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I read an article that majority of malfunctions were due to mag feeding problems.

The metal mags werent designed to be used over and over and over again. 1 use and disgard. Where pmags are.

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i have more Pmags than I can begin to count.  They are good mag's but are not issue free.  I personally also prefer quality USGI mag's from certain manufacturers with MagPul followers. 

We should also consider that not all Military procurement is necessarily the best options, but often times made for various other reasons.   The Marines are far from being immune.

While mag's are a commonly scrutinized item when you may have certain failures, ie failure to feed, the most noted problems with USGI mags being the black followers are known issues that have been corrected by quality modern manufactured mags.  The problem and I see it all the time is that there are A LOT of these mag still in circulation, which can date them to the 90's.

As for being 1 use disposable and whIle they may be DX'd as "disposable"  they are far from it.  That original concept is archaic and modern quality USGI mag's are not designed or built in that manner.

Curious... anyone know if the Lancer mags are compatible with Pmag followers?

i generally like the Lancers better than the pmags.

the only major problem i had with the Lancers was the fact that they were difficult to load when using stripper clips.  for some reason, the spoon fits the pmags better than it does the lancers.

I like Lancer better than pmags.  I have no data or other experience to say why one is better over the other.  To me they just seem more sturdy than the plastic feed lips on the pmags.  I read or heard somewhere those covers that used to come with pmags were there to mitigate the issues of the feed lips cracking, as they would relieve the pressure on them from being stored loaded. true or untrue?

I think I've seen somewhere that newest Lancers accept the stripper clip spoon better?

I got more USGI mags than polymer ones.  Also like Lancers due to the metal feed lip area.  Maybe there'll be a big surplus of brand new USGI and sell for $5/mag  . 
I'll  take Center, Okay, Adventureline, Parsons, Colt, NHMTG, Labelle anytime.

The only problem I've had with M3 PMAGS was when I hastily loaded one with a stripper clip using the Maglula.  I did not notice the bulged feed lips because the mag inserted fine, but I got a failure to feed.  That particular magazine worked fine once I reloaded it. 

The only problem I've had with M3 PMAGS was when I hastily loaded one with a stripper clip using the Maglula.  I did not notice the bulged feed lips because the mag inserted fine, but I got a failure to feed.  That particular magazine worked fine once I reloaded it.

Did the stripper clip pry the mag's feed lip?   Just curious.  You mentioned noticing "buldged feed lips", but then mag worked fine once you reloaded?  Did you have to sort of bend the feed lips back?

I have used PMAGS in USMC m16's and m4's, and never had any issues. I have used GI mags as well, and if my weapon ever did have a feeding issue, it was with the GI mags, weither or not they were new or not.

Did the stripper clip pry the mag's feed lip?   Just curious.  You mentioned noticing "buldged feed lips", but then mag worked fine once you reloaded?  Did you have to sort of bend the feed lips back?

The stripper clip worked fine.  When I was jamming the rounds in, I did noticed I had to press with much more pressure.  I'm just guessing the rounds didn't stack nicely???  When I removed the rounds I squeezed the feed lips in, and after that the next stripper clip I rammed in felt fine.  I didn't mark the mag so now its mixed in with all my others.  Never experienced a problem again. 

I had feeding problems with 77s equivalent to Mk 262 with the 1st gen 20 rounders - which are going for a premium now...dunno why...they suck

Did you have to sort of bend the feed lips back?

This is one of the reasons why PMAGs are superior to GI mags and even Lancers. If the metal gets bent for whatever reason, it will retain that shape. The polymer in the PMAG is significantly more likely to go back to its original shape without the need for the user to notice the problem and manually force it back.


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This is one of the reasons why PMAGs are superior to GI mags and even Lancers. If the metal gets bent for whatever reason, it will retain that shape. The polymer in the PMAG is significantly more likely to go back to its original shape without the need for the user to notice the problem and manually force it back.


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I was just trying to clarify so that I could sort of envision what happened there. 

I've personally never had any of my mags with broken or bent feed lips, USGI, PMag, Lancer, etc.  I do make sure to number them and try to track them if I notice malfunctions.  The last time couple of times I was getting malfunctions, I narrowed them down to ammo in both cases.  Tula short stroking two of my midlength guns and cheaper/weak bulk ammo in one gun.  Don't think they were mag related as it would occur with different mags. 

That said, none of my mags are subject to "hard use".  While I shoot a lot (or used to), they are generally well taken care of.  If they get bent or cracked, I have replacements.  I've heard many different stories and sides of the polymer and USGI mag thing and ultimately, for me, both have been reliable.