I have a hard time believing that unions would block the citizenry from improving public works.  Unions are teh backbone of America! 

Quote from: Cougar8045 on January 18, 2012, 02:56:52 PM

I have a hard time believing that unions would block the citizenry from improving public works.  Unions are teh backbone of America! 

You know,we REALLY need a sarcasm smiley for posts like this!

Several forums I post on use purple for sarcasm.

Quote from: astroboy on January 18, 2012, 02:46:40 PM

A friend told me about a similar situation involving a group of parents who wanted to volunteer their time and money to fix the cement slab of a public school drinking fountain. The area was in disrepair for a very long time. It was a very small project however the school turned them down due to concerns over liability and a possible union greivence.

Unless the city council or the mayor can help us, we will probably not see any action to repair the roof soon. I hope this does not happen.

I have a hard time believing that unions would block the citizenry from improving public works.  Unions are teh backbone of America!

Quote from: astroboy on January 18, 2012, 02:46:40 PM

A friend told me about a similar situation involving a group of parents who wanted to volunteer their time and money to fix the cement slab of a public school drinking fountain. The area was in disrepair for a very long time. It was a very small project however the school turned them down due to concerns over liability and a possible union greivence.

Unless the city council or the mayor can help us, we will probably not see any action to repair the roof soon. I hope this does not happen.

I have a hard time believing that unions would block the citizenry from improving public works.  Unions are teh backbone of America!

I work on mostly union jobs. I hear it all the time about "others" doing similar working taking their jobs away. That is the common thread amongst union loyalists.

For instance working at my present location the iron workers were offered the opportunity to do some steel cutting and minor welding. This was additional work beyond the scope of their contract. They foreman turned down the work for whatever reason. So the contractor used a carpenter to do the cutting and welding. The employees of the steel company were threatening to strike because the carpenter was taking away work that is traditionally for iron workers. Even though they knew that was work they were not going to do they almost walked off the job. In order to make peace the contractor brought in a competing steel company to finish the work and everyone was happy.

I would think if we tried to make repairs without everyone's knowledge the unions would scream we are taking away their work. Even if the work will never be scheduled for them to do.

Quote from: Inspector on January 19, 2012, 08:31:46 AM

I work on mostly union jobs. I hear it all the time about "others" doing similar working taking their jobs away. That is the common thread amongst union loyalists.

For instance working at my present location the iron workers were offered the opportunity to do some steel cutting and minor welding. This was additional work beyond the scope of their contract. They foreman turned down the work for whatever reason. So the contractor used a carpenter to do the cutting and welding. The employees of the steel company were threatening to strike because the carpenter was taking away work that is traditionally for iron workers. Even though they knew that was work they were not going to do they almost walked off the job. In order to make peace the contractor brought in a competing steel company to finish the work and everyone was happy.

I would think if we tried to make repairs without everyone's knowledge the unions would scream we are taking away their work. Even if the work will never be scheduled for them to do.

One possibility is to get  the carpenter's and plumber's union involved in a "charitable" event to fix the facilities? They can then wave their PR/Publicity flags all they want.

Quote from: Mr. Farknkocker on January 19, 2012, 09:16:54 AM

Quote from: Inspector on January 19, 2012, 08:31:46 AM

I work on mostly union jobs. I hear it all the time about "others" doing similar working taking their jobs away. That is the common thread amongst union loyalists.

For instance working at my present location the iron workers were offered the opportunity to do some steel cutting and minor welding. This was additional work beyond the scope of their contract. They foreman turned down the work for whatever reason. So the contractor used a carpenter to do the cutting and welding. The employees of the steel company were threatening to strike because the carpenter was taking away work that is traditionally for iron workers. Even though they knew that was work they were not going to do they almost walked off the job. In order to make peace the contractor brought in a competing steel company to finish the work and everyone was happy.

I would think if we tried to make repairs without everyone's knowledge the unions would scream we are taking away their work. Even if the work will never be scheduled for them to do.

One possibility is to get  the carpenter's and plumber's union involved in a "charitable" event to fix the facilities? They can then wave their PR/Publicity flags all they want.

Heres an idea...

If we can get union workers to volunteer their time to fix the range, we gun owners can volunteer our weapons to a "Thank you union workers range day"
Maybe the local gun shops can donate some ammo so the volunteers can have a fun day at the range.

I don't know if it's feasible, just an idea.