I think it would depend on how the LGS first registered it. 
If they registered it as a shotgun,  I don't believe you can show up at HPD and register it as something else. 

I think it would depend on how the LGS first registered it. 
If they registered it as a shotgun,  I don't believe you can show up at HPD and register it as something else.

I'd hope that any FFL bringing one in even without it being specifically ordered by a customer would be aware of the issues and record it properly. I mean, Mossberg's whole advertising campaign is based around the fact that it is NOT a "shotgun" (nor an "AOW") according to BATFE standards and rules, and thus one would think that any LGS would know that and act accordingly. If the LGS called their local PD firearms registration office and was told either "yes" or "no" I'd like someone to tell me. I know here on the Big Island the answer is "no", so no LGS would order one either for their stock or by special order from a customer. I'm hoping someone can provide documentation of registration from HPD (as I've anecdotally heard). HPD will not respond to my questions, nor will the AG's office.

Any word on this?

Any word on this?

Nothing so far, but I just posted the request for info two days ago. I'm hoping that someone on Oahu will ask about it when they actually go in there to register a firearm or just to chat, you know, about Rap Back or something. Be great if they could get an answer in writing rather than just verbal, because that amounts to "hearsay". A really "thorough" approach would be to go in there with a written page that asked "Is this firearm legal, or not, to register here in the city and county of Honolulu?" Have the stats (overall length, barrel length, caliber, etc. of the Mossberg page) of the firearm on there, like the Mossberg 590, and maybe even a photo of it. Room for the person to sign and state their official position in the department.

I think it would be pretty cool with those Aguila mini shells.   Supposedly you can fit 9 or 10 of them in there with an adapter.

I can fit a ton in my 500 w/ mag ext. they don't feed right in my 590, 500, 88, or 930. 1/2 the time they leave the tube and spin backwards, sideways, or catawampus. they're a bad ass concept though

I can fit a ton in my 500 w/ mag ext. they don't feed right in my 590, 500, 88, or 930. 1/2 the time they leave the tube and spin backwards, sideways, or catawampus. they're a bad ass concept though

Saw an IG video of a guy testing these out and they had feeding problems.  I don't remember what shotty he was using.  But every pump there was a jam.

I can fit a ton in my 500 w/ mag ext. they don't feed right in my 590, 500, 88, or 930. 1/2 the time they leave the tube and spin backwards, sideways, or catawampus. they're a bad ass concept though

Read that this work for shorter shells including the mini.  Anyone ever tried it?

https://smile.amazon.com/OPSol-Mini-Clip/dp/B01F5REBUM?_encoding=UTF8&keywords=OPSol%20Mini-Clip&qid=1463514887&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Read that this work for shorter shells including the mini.  Anyone ever tried it?

https://smile.amazon.com/OPSol-Mini-Clip/dp/B01F5REBUM?_encoding=UTF8&keywords=OPSol%20Mini-Clip&qid=1463514887&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

It might work, but then you could only use the minis until you took it out. Not sure if reg size shells will feed.  Everyone loves pumps actions because of their solid reliability. I think that the mini slugs compromise that

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It might work, but then you could only use the minis until you took it out. Not sure if reg size shells will feed.  Everyone loves pumps actions because of their solid reliability. I think that the mini slugs compromise that

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I think it snaps in and out easily.  Shouldn't be an issue for those that want a lower power solution for ammunition.   

I don't have a pump gun, so I dunno.  YMMV

Jhara sells the mini shells

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Any updates. I know someone said that a local shop was looking at bringing these in. Can anyone elaborate on what shop that was? So that I can talk to them directly

Any updates. I know someone said that a local shop was looking at bringing these in. Can anyone elaborate on what shop that was? So that I can talk to them directly

I haven't heard a thing. Don't know what shop that might have been (I'm on the Big Island). Hawaii County PD gave me a definitive "NO", and Honolulu PD never answered my inquiry about whether they considered it legal or not. Since there was a claim that at least one had been registered on Oahu some time ago (with BATFE agents confirming that it was federally legal), I hope someone gets around to asking them (the highest ranking firearms registration official available) in person.

Prime Sports

Thanks suka. I will follow up with Henry. Prime sports and Duane at danger close are my main guys I go to now.

HPD being very quiet on this,,,,,,,

 We sent an inquiry into HPD as well as we have the new Remington TAC 14s on order. 

Hopefully they respond back to you

They won't reply and has remained quiet about this,  even when the local ATF office has confirmed these are NOT NFA on ATF letterhead!

They HPD had affirmed that any firearm that specifically shots shot shells are shotguns regardless. Even when NO such definition are found nor defined!

They won't reply and has remained quiet about this,  even when the local ATF office has confirmed these are NOT NFA on ATF letterhead!

They HPD had affirmed that any firearm that specifically shots shot shells are shotguns regardless. Even when NO such definition are found nor defined!

When I went through the lengthy process of getting an answer on this from the Hilo office (after providing them with three separate rulings by BATFE that the firearm in question was NOT a shotgun) I was first told "If it shoots a shotgun shell, it is a shotgun". I asked them where that legal definition existed in HRS. They gave me no answer. I then asked about a Taurus Judge model revolver chambered for .410 bore shot shells and the .45 Colt cartridge and why, since that shoots shotgun shells, they register it as a pistol when they just told me a definition that means it's clearly a shotgun (and one that's WAY too short!). They then made up a new definition/rule/law: "If it fires shotgun shells exclusively, then it's a shotgun." So if someone modified an .410 shotgun by shortening it and so it would fire .45 Colt cartridges, that firearm would be legal according to the Hawaii County "interpretation" (aka "made up shit") of the law, but it would NOT be legal by BATFE standards since you can't "modify" (make shorter) an ordinary (manufactured as full length) shotgun into a "firearm". I'm sure confronted with this possibility the county would just make up more shit, but at that point I gave up because it's clear they can do and say and make up anything they want to and all we can do is get arrested and go to jail for not following the shit they make up. 

When I went through the lengthy process of getting an answer on this from the Hilo office (after providing them with three separate rulings by BATFE that the firearm in question was NOT a shotgun) I was first told "If it shoots a shotgun shell, it is a shotgun". I asked them where that legal definition existed in HRS. They gave me no answer. I then asked about a Taurus Judge model revolver chambered for .410 bore shot shells and the .45 Colt cartridge and why, since that shoots shotgun shells, they register it as a pistol when they just told me a definition that means it's clearly a shotgun (and one that's WAY too short!). They then made up a new definition/rule/law: "If it fires shotgun shells exclusively, then it's a shotgun." So if someone modified an .410 shotgun by shortening it and so it would fire .45 Colt cartridges, that firearm would be legal according to the Hawaii County "interpretation" (aka "made up shit") of the law, but it would NOT be legal by BATFE standards since you can't "modify" (make shorter) an ordinary (manufactured as full length) shotgun into a "firearm". I'm sure confronted with this possibility the county would just make up more shit, but at that point I gave up because it's clear they can do and say and make up anything they want to and all we can do is get arrested and go to jail for not following the shit they make up. 

I don't think they would arrest you, because they have no case.  They may confiscate the firearm, in which case you have to sue them to get it back.  Costs money, but it would be a win, they would look like the fool, and they'll be forced to comply with the law as written.