From Gun Owners of America. Easy way to contact Schatz and Hirono (and they include another email to Gabbard re HR 38) and urge them to honor their sworn oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution, including the right to bear arms. Even with my post of several hours ago re the absurd email response from Hirono to me, I still did this, and will continue to contact them, even without any expectation that it will have any influence whatever, no matter how many contacts they receive. I'm just stubborn, or stupid, that way. And even though I don't have the slightest fantasy that these traitors could one day be held accountable for their treachery, I still dream about it. And the more evidence available that they've been informed of their traitorous behavior, the better.

I can't find a copy of the new bill yet, but last year's version included the language "license from state of residence", which Rep. Hudson changed to "license from a state" in his HR 38. I'll call Cornyn's office tomorrow and make the same argument to him that I made to Hudson's staff about those of us in de facto "no issue" jurisdictions (being potentially remedied by non-resident licenses).

http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/home (The contact for the Cornyn bill is near the top of the list...).

John Cornyn Introduces Concealed Carry Reciprocity in the Senate

Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn just introduced his long-awaited concealed carry reciprocity bill (S. 446)

Urge Your Senators to Cosponsor Concealed Carry Reciprocity

Dear X,

I have great news to tell you.

Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn just introduced his long-awaited concealed carry reciprocity bill (S. 446).

This is a bill that Gun Owners of America has worked long-and-hard for -- and the issue remains one of GOA's top priorities.

The Cornyn bill is the near-identical companion to Rep. Richard Hudson's H.R. 38 -- a bill that will allow you to protect yourself and your family, all across the country.

Under the Cornyn-Hudson bills, your permit to carry a concealed handgun will be recognized in any state in the union.

And if you live in a Constitutional Carry state, you won't need a permission slip at all to defend your life.

As you can imagine, gun grabbers are losing their minds over this legislation.

They are foaming at the mouth, claiming this legislation is dangerous and that it will put the safety of Americans in jeopardy.

That's ridiculous, though.  These are the typical scare tactics we constantly hear from people who hate freedom.

But they are whining loudly because they know there is a good chance this legislation could be signed into law by President Trump.

So please take just 60 seconds to go here right now to send a pre-written letter to your U.S. Senators.

Urge them to cosponsor S. 446, the Cornyn concealed carry reciprocity bill.

Let's hand gun grabbers a crushing defeat, and help roll back the restrictions that have prevented us from fully exercising our rights protected by the Second Amendment.

Thank you for taking action!

In Liberty,

Erich Pratt
Executive Director

P.S. Please urge Sen. Brian Schatz (D) and Sen. Mazie Hirono (D) to cosponsor Senator John Cornyn's concealed carry reciprocity bill (S. 446).

Please note that when you take action, a letter will also be sent to your congressman, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D), to urge cosposnorship of H.R. 38 -- or to thank your representative for having already signed on it.

I just called Cornyn's DC office (1 PM their time) several times trying the menu option to "talk to a member of the staff", but was always rerouted to a message about other issues. I finally gave up and chose the "leave a recorded message" option and explained our plight here and that the current language of the bill, requiring a license to carry from your state of residence, would result in Hawaii being filled with tourists being legal CCW bearers, while every single Hawaii resident would still be disarmed outside their homes/businesses. I will try to talk to a live person again tomorrow... maybe they are getting ready to attend the joint session speech by Trump (I wonder if the Dems will throw a tantrum?).

If anyone else wants to call:

(202) 224-2934

I just called Cornyn's DC office (1 PM their time) several times trying the menu option to "talk to a member of the staff", but was always rerouted to a message about other issues. I finally gave up and chose the "leave a recorded message" option and explained our plight here and that the current language of the bill, requiring a license to carry from your state of residence, would result in Hawaii being filled with tourists being legal CCW bearers, while every single Hawaii resident would still be disarmed outside their homes/businesses. I will try to talk to a live person again tomorrow... maybe they are getting ready to attend the joint session speech by Trump (I wonder if the Dems will throw a tantrum?).

If anyone else wants to call:

(202) 224-2934

Talked to someone in the office and told them to change the wording.  They were not aware of that issue.  So hopefully they pass the message on.

Thanks for keeping up on these things, it would be tragic if national reciprocity passes and Hawaii is still excluded.

Thanks for keeping up on these things, it would be tragic if national reciprocity passes and Hawaii is still excluded.

I would like to see what bs they come up with to deny our right...prob change from may issue to shall not issue and invent a special named permit for current ccw permit holders. They shall name it the unicorn permit. Only those special enough can have them.

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I would like to see what bs they come up with to deny our right...prob change from may issue to shall not issue and invent a special named permit for current ccw permit holders. They shall name it the unicorn permit. Only those special enough can have them.

The only way things will ever change here is via court order or federally mandated law. If such a thing were ever to happen (such as a "national reciprocity act" that mandated Hawaii recognize non-resident permits held by Hawaii residents), the state will indeed come up with "something" to deny us the option to legally exercise our rights, and, it WILL be "bs". In the case of the national reciprocity acts, the state would simply ban CCW because the law (both versions, Cornyn S 446 and Hudson HR 38) states that the reciprocity only applies to states that have legal options for concealed carry licenses. The state would then declare open carry is the right, and continue (as they do now with concealed carry) to not issue any licenses to ordinary citizens because no one can meet the standard of "exceptional case". I'm guessing that the legislature (if it wasn't in session they would call an "emergency session") could create and pass the necessary legislation ("commonsense gun violence prevention regulations") within 72 hours. Our public servants working to serve us while "honoring" their oath of office to uphold and defend the constitutions! 

The only way things will ever change here is via court order or federally mandated law. If such a thing were ever to happen (such as a "national reciprocity act" that mandated Hawaii recognize non-resident permits held by Hawaii residents), the state will indeed come up with "something" to deny us the option to legally exercise our rights, and, it WILL be "bs". In the case of the national reciprocity acts, the state would simply ban CCW because the law (both versions, Cornyn S 449 and Hudson HR 38) states that the reciprocity only applies to states that have legal options for concealed carry licenses. The state would then declare open carry is the right, and continue (as they do now with concealed carry) to not issue any licenses to ordinary citizens because no one can meet the standard of "exceptional case". I'm guessing that the legislature (if it wasn't in session they would call an "emergency session") could create and pass the necessary legislation ("commonsense gun violence prevention regulations") within 72 hours. Our public servants working to serve us while "honoring" their oath of office to uphold and defend the constitutions! 

So i get to carry for 72 hours then. Still better than not being able to for the past 30+ years.

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So i get to carry for 72 hours then. Still better than not being able to for the past 30+ years.

Probably not, as they'd be ready to request, and 99.9% likely be granted by Hawaii courts, a temporary injunction stalling implementation of the reciprocity law until it could be resolved by the legislature. When Moore v. Madigan overturned the Illinois ban on concealed carry as unconstitutional, the court, even without a formal request for a temporary injunction, granted the legislature a 180 day stay in order to pass appropriate legislation to conform to the ruling. The state asked for, and received one 30 day extension, and on that final day of that 30 day extension the legislature passed the concealed carry law (120 day wait after 16 hours of training + $150 to the state + FOID card = over $500). I'm just sayin'... They are in control. They will not relinquish control. They will do whatever they can do (literally almost anything) to keep us from exercising our fundamental individual enumerated inalienable natural civil rights. That's what they do.

The design of the reciprocity bill is to allow permit holdets to carry in any state. So since hawaii and other states will find ways to block this, maybe a new bill will be presented since the old one will be useless. Hudson seems to listen to what people need, hence the revision from resident ccw permit to any ccw permit

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Finally got through to a live staff member and expressed my concerns about S 446 and possibly changing the language to allow Hawaii residents to carry in Hawaii with an out of state nonresident permit. Staffer listened politely and said he'd pass along the concerns.

Received a response from Mazie after a month or so.  I guess she's had other things to deal with, so I'll cut her a little slack.  Just a little.....

Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 446, the Constitutional Concealed Reciprocity Act of 2017. I appreciate hearing
from you on this legislation.

Far too many mass shootings have occurred in the United States in recent years, and they have all deeply affected me and our
nation. The shootings in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012, Navy Yard, Washington, D.C. on September 16, 2013,
Isla Vista, California on May 23, 2014, Charleston, South Carolina on June 18, 2015, the shooting in Roseburg, Oregon on
October 1, 2015, and the shooting in Orlando, Florida on June 12, 2016 in particular, received national headlines and attention.
However, we cannot forget that there are far too many other incidences that occur far too frequently in communities across the country.

On February 27, 2017, Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) introduced S. 446, the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017.
This bill would provide individuals with concealed-carry permits issued in one state the same concealed-carry privileges in other
states with similar laws, without having to apply for a new permit in that state. S. 446 has been referred to the Senate Committee
on the Judiciary.

Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should the Senate consider S. 446 or similar legislation during the 115th
Congress.

Again, thank you for contacting me. If you would like to stay in touch with me on this or other issues of importance to you, please
visit my website at: http://www.hirono.senate.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me again in the future if I may be of assistance
to you in any way.

Aloha,

Signature

Mazie K. Hirono
United States Senator

I was actually shocked she didn't summarily dismiss my input and substitute her own rationale for voting the opposite.

Of course, the letter (email) doesn't really address the actual issues reciprocity would fix, like disparity between each state's laws that can create a felon of a legally permitted concealed carrier by simply traveling across state lines.  Consistency of laws prevents inadvertently breaking another state's laws, as was seen during the Hurricane Sandy aftermath, with workers from Southern states traveling to NJ to help with recovery getting arrested for having a handgun.

Having to apply for and qualify to obtain another state's permit is 100% unnecessary if your state requires a minimal amount of qualifications, teaches the relevant laws, and tests for proper and safe handgun use.  I know it's more "Constitutional" to do away with mandated training and testing, but given the level of injury ignorance can inflict, I vote for education over "trial and error."

I got the same one, word for word.
Where does she say she supports or opposes.
Double speak at it's finest.
Aloha

I got the same one, word for word.
Where does she say she supports or opposes.
Double speak at it's finest.
Aloha

That's just it.  All the other replies said, "Thanks for the input, but I'm voting with the party and Obama."  Didn't go there this time.  Is it an opening for dialogue, or simply a tactic to divert from her usual methods?   

Update: No update. What did we expect from the Uniparty swamp-dwellling RINOS?! Or as per the article by AWR Hawkins puts it:

Mitch McConnell Ignores National Reciprocity for 46 Consecutive Weeks

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/23/mitch-mcconnell-ignores-national-reciprocity-45th-consecutive-week-2/

Excerpt:

It is January 23, 2018, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has ignored national reciprocity for 46 consecutive weeks.
Breitbart News reported that national reciprocity was introduced in the Senate on March 1, 2017, but McConnell has yet to say a word about it in public.

National reciprocity was introduced in the House on January 3, 2017, where it suffered a similar fate at the hands of Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.). It was December 6, 2017, before enough conservatives banded together to overcome Ryan’s stonewalling and pass the measure.  Conservatives in the Senate will no doubt have to do the same thing if national reciprocity is to have a chance of passage.

McConnell’s lack of interest in reciprocity is characteristic of the ruling class. After all, members of that class have around-the-clock, taxpayer-funded armed security wherever they go, so their lives are the same with or without reciprocity for concealed carry permits. But for the common man, for the concealed carry permit holders in Kentucky who voted for McConnell in 2014, national reciprocity is the linchpin of freedom. With it, they can keep their pistol close at hand for self-defense as they traverse this great country. Without it, their right to keep and bear arms is often limited by a state border.

I'm waiting for misdirection #2 by Trump so the bill passes the senate without the anti 2a media getting wind of it and playing the afraid of guns and all gun owners are crazy card.

I don't dispute you post, but timing is key.  Right now the media was concerned with DACA and now is focusing on "Russia" again because the dems caved in the government shutdown.  Fakenews using misdirection again.