Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again (Read 156571 times)

punaperson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #140 on: June 01, 2017, 08:56:00 AM »
It’s Official – President Trump Notifies Congress: U.S. Removed From Paris Climate Treaty…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/06/01/its-official-president-trump-notifies-congress-u-s-removed-from-paris-climate-treaty/#more-133655

There have been many rumors and indications in this direction, but President Trump just made it official.  The President has notified congressional leadership that he is withdrawing the U.S. from the Paris Climate Treaty…

robtmc

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #141 on: June 01, 2017, 09:05:35 AM »
Outstanding.........moonbat heads start popping..........

omnigun

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #142 on: June 01, 2017, 09:26:03 AM »
And with that I will be voting Democrat or 3rd party next election.  He has gone too far and I am saddened at the future but atleast in the end I will be able to write, "I told you so" to you guys. Our economy will go down and America will lose political influence. I fear our future. Maybe some time in the future I will regret voting him over Hillary. That time has not come yet though.

punaperson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #143 on: June 01, 2017, 09:28:01 AM »
Outstanding.........moonbat heads start popping..........
Right on cue...

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #144 on: June 01, 2017, 09:52:10 AM »
Right on cue...
Click on it to get the full effect...
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

macsak

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #145 on: June 01, 2017, 10:10:19 AM »
atleast in the end I will be able to write, "I told you so" to you guys.

so grown up of you...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #146 on: June 01, 2017, 10:55:57 AM »
The stock market hit record highs today after the Paris Discord announcement.

WINNING!!   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:     :geekdanc:   
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #147 on: June 01, 2017, 11:48:47 AM »
Ah, the paid climate scientists heads are going to explode over this WSJ article. The truth is inconvenient to those who are hysterical!!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/paris-climate-discord-1496272448

"...The Big Con at the heart of Paris is that even its supporters concede that meeting all of its commitments won’t prevent more than a 0.17 degree Celsius increase in global temperatures by 2100, far less than the two degrees that is supposedly needed to avert climate doom.

It’s also rich for Europeans to complain about the U.S. abdicating climate leadership after their regulators looked the other way as auto makers, notably Volkswagen , cheated on emissions tests. This allowed Europeans to claim they were meeting their green goals without harming the competitiveness of their auto makers. The EPA had to shame the EU into investigating the subterfuge.

The U.S. legal culture will insist on carbon compliance even if Europe and China cheat. Even if Mr. Trump would succeed in rewriting U.S. emissions targets, his successor could ratchet them back up. That possibility might deter some companies from investing in long-term fossil-fuel production...."
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 12:11:35 PM by Inspector »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #148 on: June 01, 2017, 11:57:58 AM »
Ah, the paid climate scientists heads are going to explode over this WSJ article. The truth is inconvenient to those who are hysterical!!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/paris-climate-discord-1496272448

WSJ wants money to read that article.

 :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #149 on: June 01, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »
WSJ wants money to read that article.

 :wacko:
That's weird. The first time I clicked on it I got the whole article. Now when I do I get the subscribe screen. Sorry about that.
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Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #150 on: June 01, 2017, 12:06:55 PM »
Here is the article. For some reason when I click to it from Facebook I don't get the subscribe screen.

Wall Street Journal Article:

President Trump and his advisers are debating whether to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate accord, and if he does the fury will be apocalyptic—start building arks for the catastrophic flood. The reality is that withdrawing is in America’s economic interest and won’t matter much to the climate.

President Obama signed the agreement last September, albeit by ducking the two-thirds majority vote in the Senate required under the Constitution for such national commitments. The pact includes a three-year process for withdrawal, which Mr. Trump could short-circuit by also pulling out of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

Paris was supposed to address the failures of the 1997 Kyoto protocol, which Bill Clinton signed but George W. Bush refused to implement amid similar outrage. The Kyoto episode is instructive because the U.S. has since reduced emissions faster than much of Europe thanks to business innovation—namely, hydraulic fracturing that is replacing coal with natural gas.

While legally binding, Kyoto’s CO 2 emissions targets weren’t strictly enforced. European countries that pursued aggressive reductions were engaging in economic masochism. According to a 2014 Manhattan Institute study, the average cost of residential electricity in 2012 was 12 cents per kilowatt hour in the U.S. but an average 26 cents in the European Union and 35 cents in Germany. The average price of electricity in the EU soared 55% from 2005 to 2013.

Yet Germany’s emissions have increased in the last two years as more coal is burned to compensate for reduced nuclear energy and unreliable solar and wind power. Last year coal made up 40% of Germany’s power generation compared to 30% for renewables, while state subsidies to stabilize the electric grid have grown five-fold since 2012.

But the climate believers tried again in Paris, this time with goals that are supposedly voluntary. China and India offered benchmarks pegged to GDP growth, which means they can continue their current energy plans. China won’t even begin reducing emissions until 2030 and in the next five years it will use more coal.

President Obama, meanwhile, committed the U.S. to reducing emissions by between 26% and 28% below 2005 levels by 2025. This would require extreme changes in energy use. Even Mr. Obama’s bevy of anti-carbon regulations would get the U.S. to a mere 45% of its target.

Meeting the goals would require the Environmental Protection Agency to impose stringent emissions controls on vast stretches of the economy including steel production, farm soil management and enteric fermentation (i.e., cow flatulence). Don’t laugh—California’s Air Resources Board is issuing regulations to curb bovine burping to meet its climate goals.

Advocates in the White House for remaining in Paris claim the U.S. has the right to unilaterally reduce Mr. Obama’s emissions commitments. They say stay in and avoid the political meltdown while rewriting the U.S. targets.

But Article 4, paragraph 11 of the accord says “a party may at any time adjust its existing nationally determined contribution with a view to enhancing its level of ambition.” There is no comparable language permitting a reduction in national targets.

Rest assured that the Sierra Club and other greens will sue under the Section 115 “international air pollution” provision of the Clean Air Act to force the Trump Administration to enforce the Paris standards. The “voluntary” talk will vanish amid the hunt for judges to rule that Section 115 commands the U.S. to reduce emissions that “endanger” foreign countries if those countries reciprocate under Paris. After his experience with the travel ban, Mr. Trump should understand that legal danger.

The Big Con at the heart of Paris is that even its supporters concede that meeting all of its commitments won’t prevent more than a 0.17 degree Celsius increase in global temperatures by 2100, far less than the two degrees that is supposedly needed to avert climate doom.

It’s also rich for Europeans to complain about the U.S. abdicating climate leadership after their regulators looked the other way as auto makers, notably Volkswagen , cheated on emissions tests. This allowed Europeans to claim they were meeting their green goals without harming the competitiveness of their auto makers. The EPA had to shame the EU into investigating the subterfuge.

The U.S. legal culture will insist on carbon compliance even if Europe and China cheat. Even if Mr. Trump would succeed in rewriting U.S. emissions targets, his successor could ratchet them back up. That possibility might deter some companies from investing in long-term fossil-fuel production.

The simplest decision is to make a clean break from Paris. But if Mr. Trump doesn’t want to take the political heat for withdrawing on his own, here’s a compromise: Atone for Mr. Obama’s dereliction and submit Paris to the Senate for approval as a treaty. Then we can see whether anticarbon virtue-signaling beats real-world economic costs for Democrats from energy states like Heidi Heitkamp (North Dakota), Joe Manchin (West Virginia) and Joe Donnelly (Indiana).

Appeared in the June 1, 2017, print edition.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #151 on: June 01, 2017, 12:28:41 PM »
According to the Constitution, 2/3 of those Senators present must concur with treatise negotiated by the President.

Obama set up the Paris Accord on his own ("I have a phone and a pen").  That made it possible for Trump to terminate the agreement on his own.

And that's the name of that tune!

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The Senate's Role in Treaties

The Constitution provides that the president "shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties,
provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur" (Article II, section 2). The Constitution's framers gave the Senate a share
of the treaty power in order to give the president the benefit of the Senate's advice and counsel, check presidential power, and
safeguard the sovereignty of the states by giving each state an equal vote in the treatymaking process.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Treaties.htm
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #152 on: June 01, 2017, 04:30:24 PM »
According to the Constitution, 2/3 of those Senators present must concur with treatise negotiated by the President.

Obama set up the Paris Accord on his own ("I have a phone and a pen").  That made it possible for Trump to terminate the agreement on his own.

And that's the name of that tune!
As that Obama guy once said, ""Elections have consequences. We won." Damn straight! Dismantle that bullshit "legacy"!

punaperson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #153 on: June 01, 2017, 06:01:02 PM »
Outstanding.........moonbat heads start popping..........
A list has been started, and after just s few hours...

THE 11 DUMBEST REACTIONS TO TRUMP QUITTING THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD
Trump 'is committing a traitorous act of war against the American people'

https://news.grabien.com/story-10-dumbest-reactions-trump-quitting-paris-climate-accord

Exerpts:

9. The ACLU, an organization ostensibly centered around civil rights, offered the bizarre claim that leaving the Paris agreement is "a massive step back for racial justice and an assault on communities of color across the U.S."

8. CNN's Fareed Zakaria upped the crazy a notch higher, telling Jake Tapper "this will be the day that the United States resigned as the leader of the free world."

5. MSNBC's Donny Deutsch, apparently seeking a compelling way to express his philosophical differences with Trump, said the president "is a sociopath." Also, "very dangerous."

1. And New York's Daily News takes the cake. Trying to recapture the glory of its notorious "Ford to City: Drop Dead" headline from the 70s, tomorrow's front-page will appear thusly:

Bunker

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #154 on: June 01, 2017, 06:36:33 PM »
Let the good times roll!

robtmc

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #155 on: June 01, 2017, 07:29:17 PM »
Outstanding.........moonbat heads start popping..........

Funniest thing, seems to be the pissing on Obozo's "legacy" that is at the heart of the butthurt.

Remember, the Senate refused to ratify this joke, so Bozo just used his "pen and phone" to issue an imperial decree.

Too bad, it is just that simple for Trump to undo that idiocy.  To the delight of millions of US citizens.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2017, 09:48:12 PM by robtmc »

robtmc

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #156 on: June 01, 2017, 07:57:00 PM »
You have to wonder about the handling of an old Chevelle at 200 mph..............My 67 Corvette started to float the front end at 135 mph.

Let the good times roll!


Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #157 on: June 13, 2017, 01:18:30 PM »
DELINGPOLE: Ship of Fools III – Global Warming Study Cancelled Because of ‘Unprecedented’ Ice

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/13/delingpole-ship-of-fools-iii-global-warming-study-cancelled-because-of-unprecedented-ice/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

“It became clear to me very quickly that these weren’t just heavy ice conditions, these were unprecedented ice conditions,” Dr. David Barber, the lead scientist on the study, told VICE. “We were finding thick multi-year sea ice floes which on level ice were five metres thick… it was much, much thicker and much, much heavier than anything you would expect at that latitude and at that time of year.”
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Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #158 on: June 13, 2017, 01:48:35 PM »
Another article verifying that the whole Paris Accord was about nothing but wealth redistribution:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/5/paris-climate-agreement-shares-nations-wealth/
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #159 on: June 13, 2017, 05:15:14 PM »
Climate Change is all about ONE THING, which the Climate Change Alarmists almost never publicize.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw