Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again (Read 156512 times)

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #220 on: July 06, 2017, 09:38:26 AM »
Should be "butt hurt, butt hurt, butt hurt "


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I stand corrected, sir.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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punaperson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #221 on: July 07, 2017, 06:22:04 PM »
Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclusive-study-finds-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-climate-data/

A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published [global average surface temperature (GAST)] data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.
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In fact, almost all the surface temperature warming adjustments cool past temperatures and warm more current records, increasing the warming trend, according to the study’s authors.

“Nearly all of the warming they are now showing are in the adjustments,” Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, a study co-author, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview. “Each dataset pushed down the 1940s warming and pushed up the current warming.”

“You would think that when you make adjustments you’d sometimes get warming and sometimes get cooling. That’s almost never happened,” said D’Aleo, who co-authored the study with statistician James Wallace and Cato Institute climate scientist Craig Idso.

Their study found measurements “nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history,” which was “nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern.”

Things Get Hot for Michael Mann

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/things_get_hot_for_michael_mann.html

Michael Mann has stepped into a methane-emitting cowpile.

Mann is the Penn State climatologist famous for inventing the "hockey stick" graph promoting the notion that planetary temperatures spiked in the 20th century after a Golden Age of stasis. This graph was misleading at a minimum, the product of what Phil Jones, director of the Climate Research Unit of East Anglia termed "Mike's Nature trick" to "hide the decline." What Mann did was splice two separate data sets together to create the illusion of spiking temperatures; the graph spliced data sets together without differentiation, hiding the global temperature "decline" shown by the Briffa reconstruction set.
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He did even worse; he launched a campaign of punitive lawsuits against anyone who criticized him. He has sued Mark Steyn, National Review Online, and climatologist Dr. Timothy Ball.

Mann shot himself in the foot with that last. For several years, Mann had refused to produce his data for the court (in support of his own case), claiming that it was “proprietary.” After missing a February 20th deadline, he now finds himself in contempt. Under Canadian law, the court is now required to dismiss the suit.
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"The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball… is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud. Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

Scientists puzzle through effect of 'deep solar minimum' on Earth's atmosphere

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/scientists_puzzle_through_effect_of_deep_solar_minimum_on_earths_atmosphere.html

There haven't been any sunspots for the last 44 days, and some scientists believe that the sun is entering a period called a "deep solar minimum," with unpredictable but potentially devastating effects.  But don't worry: even if we don't know what's going to happen over the next couple of years, it is still "settled science" (ask Al Gore if you doubt this) that in a century, the "Earth's temperature" will rise and cause catastrophe.

About that global warming settled science 'consensus'...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/about_that_global_warming_settled_science_consensus.html

If there were ever a story that was just made up, try the often repeated canard that 97% of scientists believe in man-caused global warming.  Hear that?  The science is settled.

Do you know where that 97% figure came from?  It was a University of Illinois survey.  This survey, which was done by mail, was sent to 10,000 scientists who had published articles in scientific journals.  Seven hundred answered – possibly the most opinionated ones.  Ninety-seven percent believed in man-caused warming.  Three percent did not.

So actually, the 97% figure comes from fewer than 700 scientists.

Yet the public believes it because it is repeated so often.  It's been discussed and repeated as fact, yet it's not fact.

If the public wants to see how fake news gets started, this is one of its ways.

macsak

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #222 on: July 09, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »
Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclusive-study-finds-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-climate-data/

A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published [global average surface temperature (GAST)] data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

The peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.
* * * * *
In fact, almost all the surface temperature warming adjustments cool past temperatures and warm more current records, increasing the warming trend, according to the study’s authors.

“Nearly all of the warming they are now showing are in the adjustments,” Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo, a study co-author, told The Daily Caller News Foundation in an interview. “Each dataset pushed down the 1940s warming and pushed up the current warming.”

“You would think that when you make adjustments you’d sometimes get warming and sometimes get cooling. That’s almost never happened,” said D’Aleo, who co-authored the study with statistician James Wallace and Cato Institute climate scientist Craig Idso.

Their study found measurements “nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history,” which was “nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern.”


"adjustments" sounds more like "feelings" than "data"

robtmc

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #223 on: July 10, 2017, 10:34:48 AM »
"adjustments" sounds more like "feelings" than "data"
"Feelings" trump facts to the true believers.

aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #224 on: July 10, 2017, 11:06:05 AM »
 :o

Inspector

SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #226 on: July 10, 2017, 12:41:49 PM »
Old news....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/#34b06dff2892

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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In late 2012, however, polar ice dramatically rebounded and quickly surpassed the post-1979 average. Ever since,
the polar ice caps have been at a greater average extent than the post-1979 mean.

Now, in May 2015, the updated NASA data show polar sea ice is approximately 5 percent above the post-1979
average.

During the modest decline in 2005 through 2012, the media presented a daily barrage of melting ice cap stories.
Since the ice caps rebounded – and then some – how have the media reported the issue?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #227 on: July 10, 2017, 01:03:32 PM »
Who was talking about polar ice ?

Any comments on glacier shrinkage ?

( no comments about my dick in cold water  ::) )

Photos of the rebounding glaciers ? ( for all the fake news folks )

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #228 on: July 10, 2017, 01:05:21 PM »
Who was talking about polar ice ?

Any comments on glacier shrinkage ?

( no comments about my dick in cold water  ::) )
Where are these glaciers located, Hound?

Shrinkage is a bitch ain't it?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Sorry, couldn't help it.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #229 on: July 10, 2017, 01:07:02 PM »
Saw that when I walked into it.    :rofl:

And nevermind the redirect questions. ( they're not at the polar caps, although I don't know the definition of polar cap.)
Just answer the fawkin' question. ( brave heart reference )

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #230 on: July 10, 2017, 01:09:41 PM »
Who was talking about polar ice ?

Any comments on glacier shrinkage ?

( no comments about my dick in cold water  ::) )

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A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently
adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of
ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed   to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

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Zwally’s team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of East Antarctica remained steady from 1992 to
2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of West Antarctica and the Antarctic
Peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year
away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica
in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is
not accounted for.”

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #231 on: July 10, 2017, 01:12:38 PM »
I'm not playing the redirect game.

Get out of Antartica and the arctic circle and check out glacier shrinkage.

Nevermind studies and post photos per above parameter.
Everything else is fake news,

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #232 on: July 10, 2017, 01:22:04 PM »
Where are these glaciers located, Hound?

Shrinkage is a bitch ain't it?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Sorry, couldn't help it.
Most of the world's glaciers are located in the Antarctic (covered in the article) and Greenland. While the article I quoted didn't cover Greenland, Greenland is not losing ice as was reported during the same period referenced in the article. It has lost and gained (recently) ice as has the Antarctic has.

Losing or gaining ice is a natural occurrence and has been documented over a fairly long period of time before man was affecting the climate. I personally believe man can and does affect the climate but not to the extent the climate change believers would have you believe. Even the scientists who believe in man made climate change, and are willing to and stupid enough to put their name on the line, refuse to state how much man affects the climate. Because no one knows.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #233 on: July 10, 2017, 01:33:42 PM »
I'm not playing the redirect game.

Get out of Antartica and the arctic circle and check out glacier shrinkage.

Nevermind studies and post photos per above parameter.
Everything else is fake news,
Since the majority of the world's glaciers exist in the Antarctic and in Greenland and neither one is losing ice, and since you refuse to provide a location of where these glaciers are located, and assuming the photos have not been photoshopped and/or faked for nefarious reasons then I can only assume these are corner case glaciers you are trying to push on us here and I won't play THAT game with you.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

London808

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #234 on: July 10, 2017, 01:42:07 PM »
Saw that when I walked into it.    :rofl:

And nevermind the redirect questions. ( they're not at the polar caps, although I don't know the definition of polar cap.)
Just answer the fawkin' question. ( brave heart reference )

OK.

"New question mark over global warming: Scientists discover glaciers in Asian mountain range are actually getting BIGGER
Photos taken by a French satellite show glaciers in a mountain range west of the Himalayas have grown during the last decade.
The growing glaciers were found in the Karakoram range, which spans the borders between Pakistan, India and China and is home to the world's second highest peak, K2."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2130184/Forget-global-warming-Scientists-discover-glaciers-Asia-getting-BIGGER.html




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aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #235 on: July 10, 2017, 01:46:35 PM »
Post your photos of the growing glaciers. Anywhere.

I'm not saying man-made change.
Although anyone who has been to LA or Beijing or has seen the forests shrink knows we are inarguably f-ing this planet up.
Don't need a study to tell us that. Just a head in the sand to tell us we're not.

Locusts upon the Earth.....
(Yup. I am one. Not mightier than anyone)

OK.

"New question mark over global warming: Scientists discover glaciers in Asian mountain range are actually getting BIGGER
Photos taken by a French satellite show glaciers in a mountain range west of the Himalayas have grown during the last decade.
The growing glaciers were found in the Karakoram range, which spans the borders between Pakistan, India and China and is home to the world's second highest peak, K2."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2130184/Forget-global-warming-Scientists-discover-glaciers-Asia-getting-BIGGER.html

Fake News !  :rofl:
How come no photos.
I go back to Inspectors comment

assuming the photos have not been photoshopped and/or faked for nefarious reasons then I can only assume these are corner case glaciers you are trying to push on us here
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 01:52:49 PM by aieahound »

Inspector

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #236 on: July 10, 2017, 01:53:25 PM »
Post your photos of the growing glaciers. Anywhere.

I'm not saying man-made change.
Although anyone who has been to LA or Beijing or has seen the forests shrink knows we are inarguably f-ing this planet up.
Don't need a study to tell us that. Just a head in the sand to tell us we're not.

Locusts upon the Earth.....
(Yup. I am one. Not mightier than anyone)
Well then, if you want me to play, then post the originals of those photos showing that they are not photoshopped or doctored in any way. Also, I need to know the exact location and true dates taken so I can verify your negatives and originals you came up with to prove your case before I'll play with you. If you don't have proof of what you are posting then it's all fake news to me.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aieahound

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #237 on: July 10, 2017, 06:14:14 PM »
Great point !

It's ALL fake news on both sides !  :rofl:

I don't believe anything unless it agrees with me.  :D

London808

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #238 on: July 10, 2017, 06:43:39 PM »
I don't believe anything unless it agrees with me.  :D
wasent  that the tag line for the Hillary campaign ?
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

rklapp

Re: Ah the paid climate change/polution denying members are at it again
« Reply #239 on: July 10, 2017, 07:02:12 PM »
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