Seriously?   

Sure, eventually the islands will be surrounded by sea walls after the resorts give up trying to replace the sand that the waves wash away.

I guess you don't see the hypocrisy in what you wrote? One one hand you say we can control the climate enough to cause sudden warming. Then on the other you say it is faith based to think we can somehow figure it out how to deal with it. You can't have it both ways. You can't say we can cause it but not deal with it. If we can cause the climate to change we can certainly figure out how to deal with it and prevent it. The problem is the fake science that states man is causing all of this with no proof to back it up. Only the naive believe that man is causing this until  we have real proof of the cause of the weather changes that occur naturally. BTW, anyone can predict mass extinction when it will never happen in our lifetime. It is a nothing burger.

I agree that if people caused the climate change then people can fix it. To do so, we have to spend money on research and come up with practical solutions instead of putting caps on oil and gas. I would mention coal but that's a dead resource unless you can figure out how to cheaply make diamonds out of it.

Sure, eventually the islands will be surrounded by sea walls after the resorts give up trying to replace the sand that the waves wash away.

Loss of sand isn't a direct result of sea level rise.  Yes, continued sea level rise will likely result in construction of more sea walls, then more erosion if not done properly, and then continued erosion can result in the apparent of the "loss" of sand.  I guess one could logically get to "all of the beach sand will disappear because of rising sea levels", but it's not like the sand itself just disappears.

I agree that if people caused the climate change then people can fix it. To do so, we have to spend money on research and come up with practical solutions instead of putting caps on oil and gas. I would mention coal but that's a dead resource unless you can figure out how to cheaply make diamonds out of it.

That is a huge leap of faith you stated here. IF people cause climate change. There is no evidence that man can effect the climate enough to make a difference. What the scientists say is that climate change is manmade. But they conveniently NEVER SAY what percentage of climate is actually caused by man as compared to naturally occurring climate change. They conveniently leave that out. And when pushed they admit they don't know what percentage of climate change is actually caused by man. Could it be 50% or 0.000000000000000005%?? The point is no one knows. Not even the so called climate scientists who are paid to say what they do and leave out some of the facts/evidence.

My position on this subject has been clear. I do believe that man can effect the climate. But my position is since the percentage of how much man can effect the climate as compared to naturally occurring climate is unable to be quantified at this time it cannot be a large enough percentage that it can be measured at this time. When this significant number can finally be determined I will believe or not what the climate scientists have been saying.

I have challenged everyone here to provide me with the scientific evidence that the so called climate scientists have proof of how much (percentage) man actually effects the climate compared to naturally occurring climate change. And so far no one has produced this evidence. I will ask you to do the same.

I guess you don't see the hypocrisy in what you wrote? One one hand you say we can control the climate enough to cause sudden warming. Then on the other you say it is faith based to think we can somehow figure it out how to deal with it. You can't have it both ways. You can't say we can cause it but not deal with it. If we can cause the climate to change we can certainly figure out how to deal with it and prevent it. The problem is the fake science that states man is causing all of this with no proof to back it up. Only the naive believe that man is causing this until  we have real proof of the cause of the weather changes that occur naturally. BTW, anyone can predict mass extinction when it will never happen in our lifetime. It is a nothing burger.

I will ask you to go back and read my posts to the OP and please provide the proof I was asking from him for several weeks. He never could provide it because it doesn't exist. I suspect you will not be able to provide it either........ We'll see.

If you are driving a car and you stomp on the accelerator pedal to the floor until you hit the limiter chip, pop the steering wheel off, and throw it out the window then technically you are still driving right up to the moment that the car slams head first into whatever unlucky obstacle gets in the way. You still have the option of taking your foot of the accelerator and hitting the brakes, but that doesn't mean the situation is under control. Quite the opposite, and there's a very similar effect when we collectively treat the atmosphere like an aerial sewer.

As far as opinions go I'll stick with the Pentagon and vast majority of scientists vs. the fossil fuel industry's public relations campaigns to keep their billions in energy subsidies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/31/climate-change-threatens-us-military-bases-pentagon

If you are driving a car and you stomp on the accelerator pedal to the floor until you hit the limiter chip, pop the steering wheel off, and throw it out the window then technically you are still driving right up to the moment that the car slams head first into whatever unlucky obstacle gets in the way. You still have the option of taking your foot of the accelerator and hitting the brakes, but that doesn't mean the situation is under control. Quite the opposite, and there's a very similar effect when we collectively treat the atmosphere like an aerial sewer.

As far as opinions go I'll stick with the Pentagon and vast majority of scientists vs. the fossil fuel industry's public relations campaigns to keep their billions in energy subsidies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/31/climate-change-threatens-us-military-bases-pentagon

Well then I guess that settles everything. You cannot provide the proof I have been asking for throughout this thread either.

Here's a direct link to the report.

https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/tab-b-slvas-report-1-24-2018.pdf

That is a huge leap of faith you stated here. IF people cause climate change. There is no evidence that man can effect the climate enough to make a difference. What the scientists say is that climate change is manmade. But they conveniently NEVER SAY what percentage of climate is actually caused by man as compared to naturally occurring climate change. They conveniently leave that out. And when pushed they admit they don't know what percentage of climate change is actually caused by man. Could it be 50% or 0.000000000000000005%?? The point is no one knows. Not even the so called climate scientists who are paid to say what they do and leave out some of the facts/evidence.

My position on this subject has been clear. I do believe that man can effect the climate. But my position is since the percentage of how much man can effect the climate as compared to naturally occurring climate is unable to be quantified at this time it cannot be a large enough percentage that it can be measured at this time. When this significant number can finally be determined I will believe or not what the climate scientists have been saying.

I have challenged everyone here to provide me with the scientific evidence that the so called climate scientists have proof of how much (percentage) man actually effects the climate compared to naturally occurring climate change. And so far no one has produced this evidence. I will ask you to do the same.

I agree.

Here's a direct link to the report.

https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/tab-b-slvas-report-1-24-2018.pdf

Fake news! Fake news! 

Here's a direct link to the report.

https://climateandsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/tab-b-slvas-report-1-24-2018.pdf

What does this have to do with MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE? I glanced through this report and saw nothing that speaks of anything even close as to mankind influencing the climate in any way. If I am mistaken then please point out which pages link mankind to the climate issues as stated in this report.

You still have not presented any proof that I have been asking for continuously throughout this thread. Climate alarmists such as yourself only provide good value when you have content and proof to add to the subject matter. Otherwise you are just like the little kid who cried wolf too often. This report only describes climate occurrences and losses due to them. Nothing about the subject of this thread. I am honestly trying to link the two together and I fail to see what this report has to do with anything we are discussing here.

What does this have to do with MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE? I glanced through this report and saw nothing that speaks of anything even close as to mankind influencing the climate in any way. If I am mistaken then please point out which pages link mankind to the climate issues as stated in this report.

You still have not presented any proof that I have been asking for continuously throughout this thread. Climate alarmists such as yourself only provide good value when you have content and proof to add to the subject matter. Otherwise you are just like the little kid who cried wolf too often. This report only describes climate occurrences and losses due to them. Nothing about the subject of this thread. I am honestly trying to link the two together and I fail to see what this report has to do with anything we are discussing here.

Duuuude. He, like, knows what he knows maaaannn!

Guns cause climate change. Turn in your guns

Duuuude. He, like, knows what he knows maaaannn!

Guns cause climate change. Turn in your guns

I heard a guy on NPR last week say that the aerosolized lead that is emitted from guns are causing environmental damage, and therefore all guns need to be banned.

I heard a guy on NPR last week say that the aerosolized lead that is emitted from guns are causing environmental damage, and therefore all guns need to be banned.

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