People are asking why you would want to know how many rounds have been put through a used gun. Presumably you'd want to know for the same reason you'd want to know how many miles are on a used car. That is to say a round count would give you some sort of information about worth, and/or remaining life regarding the firearm. This makes little sense to me. Firstly, there is no law saying you need to keep track of how many rounds have been put through your gun unlike miles on your car (odometer laws). Secondly, and unlike cars, the useful life of firearms are rarely, rarely reached. Per Hilton Yam you can expect to retire a 1911 after 70,000 rounds or so. After 80,000 rounds through my first 1911 I would tend to agree with this (if you are shooting full power loads. If you are shooting reloads expect 100,000+ before cracks in the frame *might* develop [http://www.10-8performance.com/pages/Reliability%2C-Round-Counts%2C-and-Longevity-in-1911s.html]). My point being most guns will never, truly, be "used" guns. Even polymer guns can endure thousands upon thousands of rounds before needing severe attention.

As such, "used" guns are sometimes great deals.

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You cracked a 1911 frame? If so, what kind?

I track round counts very much like a car. However, primarily as indicators for when things need to be maintained, particularly changing springs. Like action springs in pistols, check wear on other parts, etc.

I don't shoot nearly at much as I used to, but it wasn't unusual for me to go through over 5000 rounds in a given gun in a year. Barrel life is a consideration for long guns, but I haven't gotten there yet. Some here shoot enough to shoot out a barrel, but I would think that the average enthusiast wouldn't have to worry about that for many years. Even decades.


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I shot at a NC range which rented handguns.  One was a Kimber 1911 .45 ACP with over 1 million rounds fired through it.  The only replacement parts were a couple of springs and a firing pin. 

Kimber wanted to buy the gun for their museum, but the shop didn't want to let go of it.

Sometimes, you get what you pay for!   

Only after firing one round from a Hi-point...

If it fires that 1st round...

Only after firing one round from a Hi-point...

That's like lighting a match to make sure it's good.

I would say I shoot at least 200-300 rounds a year in various guns.

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You cracked a 1911 frame? If so, what kind?

I cracked a Springfield Armory frame after circa 80,000 rounds. And I highly, highly doubt a 1911 made one million rounds with just spring replacement. You name it, I've broken it when it comes to 1911's. That is not to say the 1911 is fragile, or unreliable, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, I think the 1911 is one of the most reliable and durable guns out there. But "one million rounds" is hanger talk. Even the wonder polymers don't claim much more than a few hundred thousand rounds. "Consumable" parts such as extractors and ejectors are exactly that: life limited in a 1911. Even barrel lugs in a 1911 need some TLC. Barrel lugs will get burs that need stoning after awhile. My point being: you can't shoot 1,000,000 rounds through a 1911 with just "replacing springs." In fact, you can't shoot 1,000,000 rounds through ANY gun with "just replacing springs." ... or a lonely firing pin.

I cracked a Springfield Armory frame after circa 80,000 rounds. And I highly, highly doubt a 1911 made one million rounds with just spring replacement. You name it, I've broken it when it comes to 1911's. That is not to say the 1911 is fragile, or unreliable, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, I think the 1911 is one of the most reliable and durable guns out there. But "one million rounds" is hanger talk. Even the wonder polymers don't claim much more than a few hundred thousand rounds. "Consumable" parts such as extractors and ejectors are exactly that: life limited in a 1911. Even barrel lugs in a 1911 need some TLC. Barrel lugs will get burs that need stoning after awhile. My point being: you can't shoot 1,000,000 rounds through a 1911 with just "replacing springs." In fact, you can't shoot 1,000,000 rounds through ANY gun with "just replacing springs." ... or a lonely firing pin.

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So what became of that pistol with the cracked frame?

I cracked my colt govt after approximately 30k ipsc major loads. The crack is not in a critical area so it still works fine.
I broke the original extractor a couple years ago.

I retired it and made my secondary 1911 as my primary.

A 1911 shot 1 MILLION rounds?!?! Just the cost of ammo alone is a pretty decent house! Yeah, I get it was as a range, but still...


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A 1911 shot 1 MILLION rounds?!?! Just the cost of ammo alone is a pretty decent house! Yeah, I get it was as a range, but still...


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If you saw it, it was easy to tell it was over 25 years old.  It's well broken-in!

Ammo was really cheap long ago, before the anti-gun activists created so many hoarders...

If you saw it, it was easy to tell it was over 25 years old.  It's well broken-in!

Ammo was really cheap long ago, before the anti-gun activists created so many hoarders...

I can't even imagine shooting 1 million rounds of 22 in a single gun, let alone a .45 ACP 1911.  I mean, I'd surely have fun trying...

There is (or was since I haven't been in a while) a guy who would be at the silhouette side all day!  Tons of different 22 handguns and rifles and he seemed to be having a great time!  He probably would go through maybe a box or two of 500 rounds.  I thought that was awesome.  Then I got a 22 handgun and my buddy a 22 rifle.  They are both really fun, but after a while, loading up the mags gets me "meh" and over it after about 200 rounds.  Haha.  I mean it's still fun and all, but loading 22 isn't fun for me.