I will be moving to Hawai'I soon and have a good stock of reloading supplies, which of course includes powders and primers.  I'm hoping that I can pack these in my container with my other household goods.  Also I have hunting rifles, shotguns and pistols that I'll be bringing also.  Does anyone know for sure if these items can be packed in a 40' container and brought in?  I will check with the HPD also on this.

I will be moving to Hawai'I soon and have a good stock of reloading supplies, which of course includes powders and primers.  I'm hoping that I can pack these in my container with my other household goods.  Also I have hunting rifles, shotguns and pistols that I'll be bringing also.  Does anyone know for sure if these items can be packed in a 40' container and brought in?  I will check with the HPD also on this.

I assume you mean you are moving to the island of Hawaii? If not which island are you moving to?

Usually, if you hire a moving company to pack the container for you, they will not pack powder, primers nor ammo. If you pack the container yourself, you will probably sign something that states you agree to not pack this sort of stuff into their container. I have heard of people who pack their own containers not following the rules they agreed to and will pack that sort of thing any way. Mind you, I am not encouraging you to do so nor did I do it when I moved here. Again, this is generally speaking.

Guns, can be packed in the container. I would recommend you have an inventory of your guns if you hire someone to pack the container for you. And have them check off your inventory. So if something is missing.....

Good luck with your move and Aloha!!!

Legally you'd have to declare the ammo and powder, etc..... and pay the Hazmat fees even if you are moving the stuff across town , if moved by a commercial mover.
Firearms are entirely fine.

HPD does not enforce Hazmat since it is neither a State statue nor City ordinance.   Normally the EPA and DOT enforces this Federal code.

I don't recall signing anything like that with Uhaul but then again, I didn't ask. I just put my spam can of ammo in the container along with my firearms. Do you plan to store them in a wooden box?
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No say anything.  If they ask, answer like a Democrat would.  Use plenty of words without conveying anything.  I would just lie but we are all honest law abiding folk here.

No say anything.  If they ask, answer like a Democrat would.  Use plenty of words without conveying anything.  I would just lie but we are all honest law abiding folk here.

It's always your choice to follow rules or find ways to get around them.  You must be willing to suffer the consequences, too.

Moving companies tell you how to prep a motorcycle for shipping -- empty the gas tank and make sure no fuel is in the engine, drain the oil, remove the spark plug, etc.  I saw a giant Mayflower moving van burn to cinders after a bike someone shipped caught fire.  Unfortunately, there were three families' household goods destroyed because one guy broke the rules, not counting the cost of the vehicle and loss of revenue -- all damages I'm sure the bike owner was liable for.

Do what you want, but rules exist for a reason.

The Feds have no parole system.  Just sayin.

The Feds have no parole system.  Just sayin.

Its only a civil suit.

Moved from NV to Oahu last Oct. Used a commercial mover (DeWitt/Royal Hawaiian). Wouldn't allow powder, primers or ammo so ended up selling it all except for the 11 lbs of ammo that my wife and I packed in each of our suitcases.  Gave the packers a list of guns/serial numbers. They required that I open the safe so they could verify each one before loading into the container.

No say anything.  If they ask, answer like a Democrat would.  Use plenty of words without conveying anything.  I would just lie but we are all honest law abiding folk here.

No one on this forum does anything illegal...


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It's always your choice to follow rules or find ways to get around them.  You must be willing to suffer the consequences, too.
Moving companies tell you how to prep a motorcycle for shipping -- empty the gas tank and make sure no fuel is in the engine, drain the oil, remove the spark plug, etc.  I saw a giant Mayflower moving van burn to cinders after a bike someone shipped caught fire.  Unfortunately, there were three families' household goods destroyed because one guy broke the rules, not counting the cost of the vehicle and loss of revenue -- all damages I'm sure the bike owner was liable for.
Do what you want, but rules exist for a reason.

If allowed, the wooden boxes would protect the munitions but not sure why. Is it tradition or what? I use the wooden box that my Russian ammo came in for my powder measurer.

with the reasonable prices and well stocked inventory we have been seeing here on ammo and reloading supplies i dont think its worth breaking any laws or taking chances like flapp_jackson mentioned with the container burning down.

I said we are all law abiding people here.  Also regarding the motorcycle catching on fire, there is a big difference between gasoline and smokeless powder.  Many of us would keep a 100 lbs of powder inside our home in the factory containers, but how many would keep even one cup of gasoline inside our home?  When I moved, I loaded my container with nearly 20,000 rounds of ammo.  No one asked and I did not volunteer information.  Just like if you ever get audited by the IRS. Keep your mouth shut and only answer specifically the question asked.

If allowed, the wooden boxes would protect the munitions but not sure why. Is it tradition or what? I use the wooden box that my Russian ammo came in for my powder measurer.

Wooden crates are sturdy enough to hold the heavy ammo,
won't dissolve like cardboard if wet,
isn't as heavy as a similar size metal can (if you can find one that size),
can withstand temperatures that would melt plastic,
and will float if the ship sinks.

 

I said we are all law abiding people here.  Also regarding the motorcycle catching on fire, there is a big difference between gasoline and smokeless powder.  Many of us would keep a 100 lbs of powder inside our home in the factory containers, but how many would keep even one cup of gasoline inside our home?  When I moved, I loaded my container with nearly 20,000 rounds of ammo.  No one asked and I did not volunteer information.  Just like if you ever get audited by the IRS. Keep your mouth shut and only answer specifically the question asked.

If all the rounds are in boxes with dividers to keep them from banging into each other, just like airlines require, I'd say the ammo is low risk to ship.  If it's loose, there's that low-odds chance of the primer being struck by another round.  It's why you're smarter to use flat-nose ammo in a tube magazine (lever rifle) since the rounds are nose to primer.

Regardless of the fire risk, the HAZMAT and EPA rules govern the handling of the materials is plain.  If you don't declare it, and the shipper gets in trouble for not following handling rules, particularly if there's a spill of some kind (pallet accident?), it can become a federal case. 

I worked with the Coast Guard HAZMAT unit on Sand Island for a short time.  The government takes tracking, handling and disposal of HAZMAT extremely seriously.

Research shows that the risk is very low, especially if contained in a wood or metal box. Mythbusters also has done many videos. You're more likely to bring down an airplane from talking on a cell phone, maybe.

I don't think this is about whether ammo or powder or primers are going to go off in a hot container. I think this is about the high hazmat fees which I consider a tax which I consider a penalty for wanting to own ammunition. Pay the fees and everyone is happy. Don't pay and if you get caught all hell will break loose. JMHO

I didn't say not to pay the fees. I said that if allowed, the ammo, powder and primers are safe in metal/wooden boxes (after paying the hazmat fees of course).

I worked in air cargo for several years.  Only restriction on shipping hazmat was we couldn't put it on a passenger flight.  It was loaded with other cargo on tbe same pallet with a hazmat sticker on it.