Poll

Colt LE6920 or DDM4V11 or M&P sport II

Colt LE6920
DDM4V11
M&P Sport II and a crapload of ammo

Can't decide. (Read 16420 times)

TubbsMcGee

Can't decide.
« on: April 20, 2017, 08:40:38 PM »
What's up everyone, new member here. Looking into getting my first AR but I can't decide which route I wanna go with. I know out of the three, the DD has the most goodies and is ready to go but also the most expensive. Then comes the Colt which is a bit less expensive but I'll have more money for ammo and accessories. Lastly, the M&P which is the cheapest out of the three but still a reliable rifle and I'll definitely be able to buy tons of ammo and build it whichever way I want. I know these three are all different classes of rifles in terms of pricing but I know they are all good reliable rifles as well. Especially the DD and Colt. Let me know what y'all think.

Aloha808

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2017, 08:49:12 PM »
Daniel Defense.  Buy once, cry once

TubbsMcGee

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2017, 08:53:44 PM »
Not gonna lie, I kind of fell in love when I first saw it.

drck1000

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2017, 10:11:19 PM »
Which particular models of DD and Colt are you looking at? If you are looking at features like a free float rail, a Colt OEM2 will give you lots of options. Even the Colt OEM1 to a certain extent.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2017, 10:51:13 PM »
Which particular models of DD and Colt are you looking at? If you are looking at features like a free float rail, a Colt OEM2 will give you lots of options. Even the Colt OEM1 to a certain extent.


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That's my recommendation.  The OEMs are naked versions of the 6920.  I'd go with the OEM2 for the free-floated barrel design.

Just add the furniture in the color and style you want, and you have a factory rifle with the mods most people wind up doing anyway, and without a box full of leftover parts you'll never find a use for!  :)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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TubbsMcGee

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 12:19:22 AM »
Which particular models of DD and Colt are you looking at? If you are looking at features like a free float rail, a Colt OEM2 will give you lots of options. Even the Colt OEM1 to a certain extent.


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The LE6920 and DDM4V11 specifically. I had no idea about the OEM2. Definitely a free float rail. That is another route I can now go as well. I was looking at the pricing online, the OEM2 seems to go for around $750. So if I piece it together maybe I can save a few hundred bucks instead of going with the DD.

TubbsMcGee

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2017, 12:20:51 AM »
That's my recommendation.  The OEMs are naked versions of the 6920.  I'd go with the OEM2 for the free-floated barrel design.

Just add the furniture in the color and style you want, and you have a factory rifle with the mods most people wind up doing anyway, and without a box full of leftover parts you'll never find a use for!  :)

Ahh I see. Definitely something for me to think about now.. So many damn options lol.

macsak

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 05:29:24 AM »
The LE6920 and DDM4V11 specifically. I had no idea about the OEM2. Definitely a free float rail. That is another route I can now go as well. I was looking at the pricing online, the OEM2 seems to go for around $750. So if I piece it together maybe I can save a few hundred bucks instead of going with the DD.

yeah, if you are not set on having all DD parts, you can get the OEM2, and add DD grip and buttstock, and then choose a rail you like
OEM2 are a little difficult to find, but is a good route if you are trying for a certain look

dustoff003

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 05:33:51 AM »
yeah, if you are not set on having all DD parts, you can get the OEM2, and add DD grip and buttstock, and then choose a rail you like
OEM2 are a little difficult to find, but is a good route if you are trying for a certain look
OEM1&2 in stock at Danger Close Tactical, http://www.danger-close-tactical.com/20170404_QUICK_VIEW_OF_IN_STOCK_FIREARMS.pdf


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macsak

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 06:02:37 AM »
OEM1&2 in stock at Danger Close Tactical, http://www.danger-close-tactical.com/20170404_QUICK_VIEW_OF_IN_STOCK_FIREARMS.pdf


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if dwayne is sold out since that list was published, he can usually order pretty quickly

Inspector

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2017, 06:16:10 AM »
Trying to decide between AR Models is like trying to decide between Playboy Bunnies. You can't have just one.  :shake: :shake: :shake:

My suggestion is get the cheapest one with a crap load of ammo and then save up for the expensive one. Then you'll have two. Or save for an AK. Or buy a really nice .22 and shoot all day for a few $. Or get to know some people at the range. You might get hooked on high power bolt guns. Or old military guns. Or Black Powder guns. Or long range revolver shooting. Or.......  >:D >:D >:D
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rklapp

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2017, 06:25:12 AM »
Home defense or hunting?
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drck1000

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2017, 07:19:15 AM »
The LE6920 and DDM4V11 specifically. I had no idea about the OEM2. Definitely a free float rail. That is another route I can now go as well. I was looking at the pricing online, the OEM2 seems to go for around $750. So if I piece it together maybe I can save a few hundred bucks instead of going with the DD.
I have an OEM2 that I'm waiting to get a rail for. Prob going with the KMR. So similar to the V11.

Let me know if you have trouble finding the OEM2 in stock online. I got mine for a little less, but shopping and CC charge made things about the same as available locally (which they weren't in stock when I was in the market).

My first AR was a DD V5. It was a good gun, but it did have an out-of-spec issue that DD's customer service tried to Bubba and basically ignored the issue, so I sold the gun. I still think they produce good guns, but that experience soured me to their products. This was during the time when they were growing quickly and IMO some things suffered.


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drck1000

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2017, 07:24:09 AM »
That's my recommendation.  The OEMs are naked versions of the 6920.  I'd go with the OEM2 for the free-floated barrel design.

Just add the furniture in the color and style you want, and you have a factory rifle with the mods most people wind up doing anyway, and without a box full of leftover parts you'll never find a use for!  :)
There are complete uppers in the configuration that I wanted (rail, barrel spec, etc), but the OEM gives me more options and without stuff that usually come of anyways, like you said. I have a growing box of stuff that came off guns. A lot are from stock stuff that came with guns and others and others are stuff that I tried and didn't like. I prob have enough to build a couple guns. Which is how some people sometimes justify a new build. Haha.

Every so often, I send off stuff to people who need a part to finish builds to "pay it forward". 


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Heavies

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2017, 08:33:15 PM »
Seen a DD shoot...  Very accurate rifle..  YMMV

whynow?

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2017, 08:51:39 PM »
Reality is you will want more than 1 AR.  I would get the less expensive Colt, get familiar with the platform and the accessories available to tweak it, then get a DD or other higher end AR.  Can't go wrong with a Colt.
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hvybarrels

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2017, 09:53:18 PM »
I guess the most important is what you plan to do with it? Unless you have some high quality hookups you'll be taking it to the range and shooting paper targets. It's like buying a high end sports car that you can only open up safely for a glorious 30 seconds on the H3. People do that all the time and there's nothing wrong with it, but personally I'd rather save the money for something that I'll get to enjoy more often. BBQ guns are for people who have more money than they know what to do with.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2017, 11:38:13 PM »
I guess the most important is what you plan to do with it? Unless you have some high quality hookups you'll be taking it to the range and shooting paper targets. It's like buying a high end sports car that you can only open up safely for a glorious 30 seconds on the H3. People do that all the time and there's nothing wrong with it, but personally I'd rather save the money for something that I'll get to enjoy more often. BBQ guns are for people who have more money than they know what to do with.

I look at it more like buying quality so it will last, have few if any problems and meet the standard specs most after market products will match.

Then, if you happen to have an opportunity to take it to a "professional race track", you won't be embarrassed or worried about its reliability or ability to get the job done.

Poking holes in paper isn't the objective.  Practicing, getting used to it, trying various ammo types and brands, getting to know and trust the rifle, making needed adjustments, and taking care of it are all part of the package.  If you attend more advanced training and events, you'll be happy you went with a better model over the cheapest thing you could find!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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TubbsMcGee

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2017, 12:34:27 AM »
Mostly buying for home defense, if SHTF, and the occasional range day. I'm leaning towards the DD just because it has everything already besides optics. I want something that will last which I know the DD will and I also know the Colt will as well. Maybe for my second AR, I'd build it up. But as of now, I'm definitely swaying towards the DD.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Can't decide.
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2017, 12:56:17 AM »
Mostly buying for home defense, if SHTF, and the occasional range day. I'm leaning towards the DD just because it has everything already besides optics. I want something that will last which I know the DD will and I also know the Colt will as well. Maybe for my second AR, I'd build it up. But as of now, I'm definitely swaying towards the DD.

Then you should buy something that you're willing to stake your life on.  It shouldn't be a "project gun".  Buy another one for that.  This one needs to be operational and well maintained. 

It needs to be used for practice to ensure functionality and familiarization.  You don't have to practice with a home defense gun as your primary range gun, but enough so you're completely comfortable with the controls and its operation.

There's also the saying "Two is one, and one is none."  Have a spare for backup in case the primary fails or you can't get to it in time.

Lots of advice available when choosing a home defense firearm.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw