Shooting Lipstick ! (Read 12567 times)

Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2017, 09:40:16 AM »
The coated shoot faster with less powder, are way cleaner than lead, and has less smoke..
     Actually, not so much.
I chrono'd some.

   Out of the box 124gr chrono'd at 946 fps
 reloaded 125's were 940.
Can't get better than that.
 
Others I tested (lipstick) were the norm  +/- 10fps
115grns were 1150ish
124's around 950
out of the box 147's were around 900 but I did not chrono any 147 lipstick
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Heavies

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2017, 11:13:41 AM »
     Actually, not so much.
I chrono'd some.

   Out of the box 124gr chrono'd at 946 fps
 reloaded 125's were 940.
Can't get better than that.
 
Others I tested (lipstick) were the norm  +/- 10fps
115grns were 1150ish
124's around 950
out of the box 147's were around 900 but I did not chrono any 147 lipstick


Was that comparable lead projectiles?

Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2017, 08:46:40 AM »


Was that comparable lead projectiles?
Nope, FMJ's
If I remember correctly,  one test with 124gr was hp's  :wacko:
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oldfart

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 09:09:35 AM »
I was wondering about the slickness of the coating.
If it is just a plastic coat with no lubricating properties, then there wouldn't be a big difference in speed from a jacketed or plated bullet.

That's why I wanted Rocky to review those red rockets, because I knew he would chrono them.

Lubed lead bullets definitely shoot faster than jacketed, all things being equal.
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drck1000

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 10:29:31 AM »
I shoot pretty much only factory FMJ.  I've seen many people have gone to these coated boolits in competition, but I never got around to asking them why.  Mostly because I have no intention of rolling my own any time soon.  I assume it had to do with performance, but cost would be an important consideration as well. 

I have another group that I shoot with that is going to require either lead or poly coated boolits when we shoot steel.  So I have some polycoated factory ammo on order.  So will be interesting to see when that ammo comes in. 

Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2017, 10:50:40 AM »
I shoot pretty much only factory FMJ.  I've seen many people have gone to these coated boolits in competition, but I never got around to asking them why.  Mostly because I have no intention of rolling my own any time soon.  I assume it had to do with performance, but cost would be an important consideration as well. 

I have another group that I shoot with that is going to require either lead or poly coated boolits when we shoot steel.  So I have some polycoated factory ammo on order.  So will be interesting to see when that ammo comes in.
  The reason why I started making these is they are required for  upcoming CQ type drills because there is less splatter on the steel.
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drck1000

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 11:06:21 AM »
  The reason why I started making these is they are required for  upcoming CQ type drills because there is less splatter on the steel.
Well, you have to be able to hit the steel to have splatter. . .

Kidding, kidding. . .  ;D

Heavies

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2017, 12:13:15 PM »
Nope, FMJ's
If I remember correctly,  one test with 124gr was hp's  :wacko:
Sorry for the miscommunication.  I was meaning they shoot faster than their lead counterparts.

Heavies

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2017, 12:16:41 PM »
I was wondering about the slickness of the coating.
If it is just a plastic coat with no lubricating properties, then there wouldn't be a big difference in speed from a jacketed or plated bullet.

That's why I wanted Rocky to review those red rockets, because I knew he would chrono them.

Lubed lead bullets definitely shoot faster than jacketed, all things being equal.
They are faster than their lead counterparts.  Since they are just lead, they need lead load data, jacketed can be pushed faster.

The coating may have a little more friction, causing more speed with less powder. No problems whatsoever with coating coming off in the barrel at target lead velocity.

Gun and barrel stay much cleaner,  and cleaning is easier, because you are only having to deal with whatever powder residue.  Less smoke, since there is no burning lube.

Only thing is it has a funny smell when shooting.  Better than extra smoke and lube though, IMHO

drck1000

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2017, 12:48:50 PM »
They are faster than their lead counterparts.  Since they are just lead, they need lead load data, jacketed can be pushed faster.

The coating may have a little more friction, causing more speed with less powder. No problems whatsoever with coating coming off in the barrel at target lead velocity.

Gun and barrel stay much cleaner,  and cleaning is easier, because you are only having to deal with whatever powder residue.  Less smoke, since there is no burning lube.

Only thing is it has a funny smell when shooting.  Better than extra smoke and lube though, IMHO
The poly coated smells funny?  I guess I never really noticed.  I recall when some guys were shooting lead .300 BLK, that smelled funny and I assumed it was because of the lube. 

Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2017, 04:24:32 PM »
Well, you have to be able to hit the steel to have splatter. . .

Kidding, kidding. . .  ;D
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Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2017, 07:24:04 PM »
 :oops:
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Rocky

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2017, 07:24:32 PM »


I splatter this face
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oldfart

Re: Shooting Lipstick !
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2017, 09:20:12 PM »

I splatter this face
...
With your red rocket
 :rofl:
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