Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one? (Read 92601 times)

hnl.flyboy

Re: Why is a $6000 AR better than a $2000 one?
« Reply #140 on: January 02, 2013, 01:55:51 PM »
HA HA HA...You're right HNL need to update the price!..I still say there is no difference as long as you use good parts!

I still hang on to the though of "in general," a (then) $2000 AR was better than a (then) $600 AR.  If you got friends that know what to look for and what to do, you'd have a good $600 AR.
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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #141 on: January 02, 2013, 01:57:07 PM »
DAMN, this is an old thread!

I guess now it should be, "Why is a $6000 AR better than a $2000 one?"

LOL.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #142 on: January 05, 2013, 12:15:34 AM »
My $.99 slippa lasted longer and performed better than the Scott $45 slippa.... ;D

To each his own!!!

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #143 on: January 05, 2013, 01:29:13 AM »
I say there's no $600 AR's anymore

There are plenty of $600 AR's...Only now you'll pay $1500+ for them...but they are still $600 AR's

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #144 on: January 05, 2013, 04:03:25 AM »
My $.99 slippa lasted longer and performed better than the Scott $45 slippa.... ;D

To each his own!!!

No act.

You know the cheapest slippers are $2.99

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #145 on: January 05, 2013, 06:04:23 AM »
Here is my two cents. It's all relative to your intended use. If you don't need less than one most accuracy and don't care for all the frills then cheaper might be te route for you. If your looking for reliability just depends. I've had  cheaper ar's that ate everything I feed it and shoot pretty close to the same even with match ammo. In comparison to my high end ar that was very picky with ammo.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #146 on: January 05, 2013, 09:09:47 AM »
.gov pays about $400 for an M16A2 and expects 1 MOA out of them. use that as  reference.
My most expensive AR is a.22 and I expect less than 1MOA out of it. close to $2k. so far so good with over 10k rounds down the pipe. It's better than a $600 one because it slings 22LR more accurately and reliably at 50 yards than most $600 centerfire ARs. and I save $ and ammo in practice.
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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #147 on: January 05, 2013, 12:06:20 PM »
Seriously my slippa back then was $.99 and it lasted 10 yrs for whatever reason.... Yes your correct, if I had to buy that same slippa today it would cost me 3x the amount... So from $.99 to $2.99 was a large increase in price... damn inflation!!!   :'(
I decided to purchase a Scott slippa for $45, but now I have to worry about theft or breakage or even damage.... WTH my $.99 slippa I didn't even have to worry at all, it got dirty, took some dings here and there from the dogs and people wearing them but I could always depend on my  $.99 slippa the abuse it took and always performed like a champ!!!!

moral of the story be happy with what u got, cause u got it for a personal reason. Whether its $.99 or $45 everyone has reasons for either slippa....

 ;) :D ;) :D

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2013, 11:10:18 PM »
If any of my rifles shot no better than 3 moa, It would be for sale the next day!!! just saying... sub moa is my minimum. sub half is nicer. and Speed Tec is right, a cheap steel barrel broken in correctly is way more accurate than any expensive one not. Its not the price of the gun its the magic five... 1 proper brake in, 2 match ammo, 3 good scope, 4 clean braking trigger, 5 the right shooter. your only as accurate as your weakest link.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #149 on: March 02, 2013, 07:29:28 AM »
Any good $150 non-chrome lined barrel (“That is properly broken in IS THE KEY”) will do sub M.O.A. with match ammo or hand loads. It doesn’t matter how much you spend on the rest of the parts except for maybe the trigger, and as long as its free-floated. SpeedTec is right, you can get the same results from a $600 AR as a $2000 AR, it depends if your trying to “Impress” or “Suppress”…. As far as the cars…. Id rather drive to dinner in the BMW but Id Drag race in a Mustang. Neither of those cars would be my first choice but if those were the only two choices. 
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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #150 on: March 02, 2013, 10:40:48 AM »
My $.99 slippa lasted longer and performed better than the Scott $45 slippa.... ;D

To each his own!!!

if you had gotten custom fitted, high precisions race slippers though, you'd never go back!

i have an extra pair.  usually they sell for $70, but OBama talked about banning them, so now im selling for the low low price of $299.

xer 21

Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #151 on: March 02, 2013, 10:57:35 AM »
Disagree. An 8 cylinder mustang will not outrun an 8 cylinder BMW M3 or Z06 vette. Tell me its the driver/shooter again? If this is the case, then why are there not cheap ass 50bmg and.338 Lapua rifles for all?
just saw this.


actually, the the new 5.0 mustangs WILL beat the v8 M3 both in a drag race, and on a track. 

the z06 is a whole different animal, and the new twin turbo 6 cylinder M3 will probably beat the mustang, but the BMW has become a mere image symbol, and far too fat to take advantage of its engines.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #152 on: March 02, 2013, 11:50:40 AM »
I put a free float tube on a friend's Olympic Arms AR (one that was so old that it had an A1 upper).  He took it up to the range to zero (with cheap 55gr ball), and ended up walking downrange after two rounds because he couldn't see the second hole through the spotting scope.  2 rounds; one hole.  Group size was so small (even with iron sights) that it was scary, especially since the Oly shot better than a (n expensive) JP custom rifle.   All you really need for an accurate AR is to float a good barrel...although the fit of the gas tube to the gas tube key is CRITICAL.  The gas tube has to be exactly centered in the key, which can take some fiddling.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #153 on: March 03, 2013, 12:46:09 AM »
There are also lots of features, coatings, and other stuff that improve at 2000 ar that a 600 ar won't hold a stick to.  Nickle-boron coating etc. ambi features, metallurgy.  I forgot where I saw the breakdown of each gun and the requirements that it takes to be "milspec" and stuff and how all the metals and tests must meet the DOD standards (which are quite plentiful).

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #154 on: March 03, 2013, 10:57:29 AM »
  Perhaps quality control is a bit better as well as customer service, but for me, there is a limit to what I'll spend on an AR.  I've had great results with Bushmasters, Colts and Rock River Arms. If someone is trying to tout sub moa, just go ahead and buy a bolt action. Most people will never even come close to really running a weapon hard to test the limits.  :shaka:

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #155 on: March 04, 2013, 09:32:29 PM »
You guys all make valid points. There is no right or wrong here. Its just fun to shoot guns, and talk about guns.

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #156 on: December 19, 2013, 07:16:52 PM »
Ahhh ....the days of cheap ars......and the debate continues

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #157 on: December 20, 2013, 09:18:08 PM »
Cheap ar's are back with good bang for the $

I almost ordered a Psa upper with lw chf barrel mid length for 308 + s/h

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BCM ch 50
Stripped blemished lower 60
Lpk/grip/buffer/stock 85
Magpul buis 50

If shooting for recreation a 600 ar is fine but I wouldn't want to use it if my life depended on it

I'm a cheap bastard but I'd rather spend a little more for a colt, Bravo, Daniel for a little more piece of mind

Same for cars, America is catching up but I still drive Toyota

Damn this is an old thread

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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #158 on: December 21, 2013, 07:35:29 AM »

If shooting for recreation a 600 ar is fine but I wouldn't want to use it if my life depended on it

I'm a cheap bastard but I'd rather spend a little more for a colt, Bravo, Daniel for a little more piece of mind

I agree,  with that said  it is also important to up keep your gear.  I have a BCM,  and  after  about 4.5k  rounds I blew a gas ring at one of the HDF range days.  Still functioned the entire time,  found it  when I broke it down that night.   Just something to keep in mind.
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Re: Why is a $2000 AR better than a $600 one?
« Reply #159 on: December 21, 2013, 09:41:30 AM »
I trust my life with my $600 AR and I still don't clean it!
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