Thank you all for the replies, I know I messed up with my storage unit but all I want is common ground with lead foot about this..

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I did make a police report just to cover my butt just incase it ends up in the wrong hands. Call it wrong to do so but I was just looking out for my well being..

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There is no common ground except an offer to buy them back at fair market value,

I can understand making a report of them no longer being in your possession. But if it was a lost or stolen/criminal report that would be messed up.

Wasn't a criminal report just yo clarify, bro you don't know my situation so you shouldn't have any say.. I did message the right personal about this, Mahalo for the feedback though..

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Not to be technical and pls don't take this negatively OP.  Just honestly curious. But in filing that report, aren't you basically admitting that you had the guns in the storage locker and thus violated the place to keep laws? 

Kind of like those guys who stopped off to get something to eat on the way home after the range and their cars got broken into and guns stolen.  They reported the incident and from what I heard, they were hit with violation of the place to keep.  Not sure if that case went anywhere, but I always wondered about that one. 

How ever much was paid for the unit is a factor.  If he paid $100, then anything over that plus other costs would be a starting point. 

Personally, if I bought the locker, I'd get an estimate from a dealer for consignment less fees and taxes.  That net profit would be the minimum I'd accept to return them to the former owner.

Think of all the money saved by not paying the locker rental fee.  You have to spend that money now to get 3 items from the locker returned.  It's one way to rationalize paying market price for the guns.  You'd be out the same money as paying rent, and you still own the guns.  No difference -- other than you got your rental unit cleaned out for free!   

The alternative is walk away and shop for replacement guns elsewhere.

Let's give this guy a break.  He made a mistake and admitted it.  He didn't do or say anything bad to anyone.

Yup.

Hope they work it out and everybody happy. 

Hawaiis place to keep laws are unconstional anyway.

I don't see anything about a police report be filled ?? Am I missing something ?

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Hawaiis place to keep laws are unconstional anyway.

Let's not get into that lengthy list on this thread.

The shorter list would be: constitutional Hawaii firearms/weapons laws.

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SMH

Wonder if they were ever registered to start with. Hope I'm wrong but just got a feeling something ain't rite. Wonder if it would be wise for leadfoot to check to see if they're registered (if possible) before going any further...... just saying.....

OP - if you already removed the handgun(s) from the property, you are already in possession of a handgun(s) that is/are not registered to you.
If it were me, I would call and have an officer come to take possession of the handgun(s) and explain the situation - backed up with the storage locker purchase documentation.
To have any chance at taking legal possession, I would take a case # from the receiving officer and make a trip to HPD firearms with all your documentation showing the purchase.
Being the "nice guy" in this case puts you at risk...where will you meet? will you get pulled over trying to meet up? etc. etc.

For both sides, 3 guns are not worth a possible possession/place to keep violation.

Bad situation all the way around

OP - if you already removed the handgun(s) from the property, you are already in possession of a handgun(s) that is/are not registered to you.
If it were me, I would call and have an officer come to take possession of the handgun(s) and explain the situation - backed up with the storage locker purchase documentation.
To have any chance at taking legal possession, I would take a case # from the receiving officer and make a trip to HPD firearms with all your documentation showing the purchase.
Being the "nice guy" in this case puts you at risk...where will you meet? will you get pulled over trying to meet up? etc. etc.

For both sides, 3 guns are not worth a possible possession/place to keep violation.

Bad situation all the way around

Agreed.... exactly what I was thinking. They really
Need to contact each other to straighten it out.

OP - if you already removed the handgun(s) from the property, you are already in possession of a handgun(s) that is/are not registered to you.
If it were me, I would call and have an officer come to take possession of the handgun(s) and explain the situation - backed up with the storage locker purchase documentation.
To have any chance at taking legal possession, I would take a case # from the receiving officer and make a trip to HPD firearms with all your documentation showing the purchase.
Being the "nice guy" in this case puts you at risk...where will you meet? will you get pulled over trying to meet up? etc. etc.

For both sides, 3 guns are not worth a possible possession/place to keep violation.

Bad situation all the way around

Rather than go directly to HPD, have an FFL take possession.  They will coordinate with HPD when transferring the guns to themselves, and HPD can do their check to see if they have any interest in the guns.

Then the new owner applies for a permit and transfers them from the FFL as the current owner.

Simplest process.  There will be FFL fees, but it''l make the transfer smooth.

Rather than go directly to HPD, have an FFL take possession.  They will coordinate with HPD when transferring the guns to themselves, and HPD can do their check to see if they have any interest in the guns.

Then the new owner applies for a permit and transfers them from the FFL as the current owner.

Simplest process.  There will be FFL fees, but it''l make the transfer smooth.

FFL's need to get a permit to acquire handguns that are already in the state. Can't simply take possession.
If OP removed the handgun(s) from the property, who is the person the FFL is acquiring the handgun(s) from? Can't be the OP.
If the handgun(s) are still on the storage facility property, FFL may, and I stress may, be able to get HPD to allow some sort of lien possession with documentation (see my first post). Storage facility would act as "seller".

FFL's need to get a permit to acquire handguns that are already in the state. Can't simply take possession.
If OP removed the handgun(s) from the property, who is the person the FFL is acquiring the handgun(s) from? Can't be the OP.
If the handgun(s) are still on the storage facility property, FFL may, and I stress may, be able to get HPD to allow some sort of lien possession with documentation (see my first post). Storage facility would act as "seller".

The owner prior to the FFL is the Storage company via a lien on the property.  The FFL will coordinate the necessary paperwork to transfer ownership from the Storage Co. to themselves.  Not much different than an estate transferring them to the FFL  while applying for permits to acquire or selling them on consignment.

You're over-thinking it.  This stuff happens all the time.

The guy asking for the guns back no longer owns them.  The storage company owns them and can transfer them to an FFL with appropriate lien paperwork. 

By storing them with an FFL right away, there is no risk of being in possession of unregistered firearms.

I'm new here to the forums and from out of state. I started with a search on providing instruction for "Permit to Acquire" for some friends there. I am planning to move and Honestly the gun laws are my biggest hangup.

So, I have an FFL and have had for over 20 years. I am an NRA Pistol (and other disciplines also) instructor. From Utah, I am also an in and out of state Concealed Permit instructor as well as a Hunter's education instructor. I have done extensive research on the Hawaii laws (which make me ill if I'm honest). I still have more to learn.

This situation wouldn't be a situation in most other states. Federally, there isn't a hangup or a need for an FFL to get involved as long as whoever purchases then guns can legally own them.

Throw in the Hawaii laws and now it gets tricky because of your "Permit to Acquire" requirements. If they were anything but a handgun and you have a current permit, just register within the required time frame and you should be good. If not, or if you have a handgun I can see where the FFL would be necessary as a legal "storage" location while the paperwork is sorted out.

If I'm off here please excuse the ignorance. Crazy dilemmas this state puts you all in. I hope I can help out when I get over there finally.

Any updates from the concerned parties?


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