IMO illegal is illegal, regardless of how many years he was flying under the radar. In 30 years he probably could have been a legal citizen but he didn't feel the need to do things within our governing laws, all the while knowing full well he was breaking the law. This would set a precedent for others to follow. Seems our politicians and lower courts can do what they want these days, while the president can't do anything without the lower courts and/or others impeding everything, not to mention the media with all their fake news distracting things.

IMO illegal is illegal, regardless of how many years he was flying under the radar. In 30 years he probably could have been a legal citizen but he didn't feel the need to do things within our governing laws, all the while knowing full well he was breaking the law. This would set a precedent for others to follow. Seems our politicians and lower courts can do what they want these days, while the president can't do anything without the lower courts and/or others impeding everything, not to mention the media with all their fake news distracting things.

One of the reasons he didn't do anything to change his status as an illegal alien is because he didn't have to do anything because he knew full well the laws against illegal immigration weren't being enforced. Why call attention to yourself when everything is going perfectly without any problems?

Also, I have to wonder, if, as "a pillar of the community", he would swear that his two DUI arrests were the only two times he ever drove under the influence, and he just had the extremely coincidental bad luck to get caught both times?

We have to be careful that the popular thought pattern here is not carried too far. If we are at the point where we are demanding conscription into the army and productiveness for all citizens or immigrants I don't see how we are any better than a dictatorship or communist country.

Communism is being taught in our higher education centers right now. Serving ones nation is not Communism but and education into being a productive member of society.  It teachs life skills and a pride in nationalism that is not being taught in america.

Want to be eligible for welfare programs, college grants and social programs, Serve your 4 years in the military as a guardsmen,

IMO illegal is illegal, regardless of how many years he was flying under the radar. In 30 years he probably could have been a legal citizen but he didn't feel the need to do things within our governing laws, all the while knowing full well he was breaking the law. This would set a precedent for others to follow. Seems our politicians and lower courts can do what they want these days, while the president can't do anything without the lower courts and/or others impeding everything, not to mention the media with all their fake news distracting things.

He would of had to leave, appl,y and come back. I wonder if there is something in his past (or even something he did in America) that would stop him being eligible.

When this guy is kicked out of the country they should seize his business, home and possessions and auction them off to the highest bidder and use the money for more immigration controll.

EVERYTHING he has is the product of a crime (entering the US) and as such should be seized (upon conviction, which would be an easy case as he has admitted to willfully breaking the law on national Television)

The assets built by the act of a crime should not be kept.

When this guy is kicked out of the country they should seize his business, home and possessions and auction them off to the highest bidder and use the money for more immigration controll.

EVERYTHING he has is the product of a crime (entering the US) and as such should be seized (upon conviction, which would be an easy case as he has admitted to willfully breaking the law on national Television)

The assets built by the act of a crime should not be kept.

What?! But that would mean "crime doesn't pay"! If that "enforcing the laws" kind of stuff was actually enforced imagine the beads of sweat on the foreheads of Clinton, Obama, Holder, et al. ...

Wasn't there a time under Obama when illegals were being given green cards if they met certain qualifications?  He could have gotten permanent residency then.  But don't quote me, I might be wrong.

How about amnesty and a path to legal citizenship IF they can prove that they paid taxes?

Those would be the people worth keeping in the country.

How about amnesty and a path to legal citizenship IF they can prove that they paid taxes?

Those would be the people worth keeping in the country.

No,

paying taxs would be a further admission of crime. If your here illegally you can't work. working (paying taxes or not) is an additional crime, you don't get rewarded for being a criminal.

America does not need more criminals.

When this guy is kicked out of the country they should seize his business, home and possessions and auction them off to the highest bidder and use the money for more immigration controll.

EVERYTHING he has is the product of a crime (entering the US) and as such should be seized (upon conviction, which would be an easy case as he has admitted to willfully breaking the law on national Television)

The assets built by the act of a crime should not be kept.

This would be retarded.  Builds a system to seize all assets of anyone.  One day you might do any crime, like speeding and they will take your car and sell it off.


TLDR:
No

No,

paying taxs would be a further admission of crime. If your here illegally you can't work. working (paying taxes or not) is an additional crime, you don't get rewarded for being a criminal.

America does not need more criminals.

If I remember correctly the IRS will tax everything and its mandatory by law.  Even if profits were gathered illegally. Even if you accept bribes you must pay taxes on it. 

No,

paying taxs would be a further admission of crime. If your here illegally you can't work. working (paying taxes or not) is an additional crime, you don't get rewarded for being a criminal.

America does not need more criminals.

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I think in terms of what is practical.
We can't deport every single illegal alien, why not use the IRS as a quick and easy way to judge whether or not to allow someone amnesty?

What other practical solution is there besides the military service option?

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I think in terms of what is practical.
We can't deport every single illegal alien, why not use the IRS as a quick and easy way to judge whether or not to allow someone amnesty?

What other practical solution is there besides the military service option?

Tulsi will introduce individual bills in Congress for every single one of them (like she has for the Kona guy). That's gonna be a LOT (20 million?) of bills. I have faith she can do it. I pray to krishna she can pull it off. Especially for the young guys who spent time in the ISIS training camps in Syria. 

This would be retarded.  Builds a system to seize all assets of anyone.  One day you might do any crime, like speeding and they will take your car and sell it off.


TLDR:
No

No, as owning a car is not the proceeds of a crime, unless you use the car for racing in which case they can already seize the car (its in the law)

They seize the property of criminals who gain that property through the act of committing crimes  (such as drug dealing) all the time and I have no problem what so ever.

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I think in terms of what is practical.
We can't deport every single illegal alien, why not use the IRS as a quick and easy way to judge whether or not to allow someone amnesty?

What other practical solution is there besides the military service option?

 Of course we can,
any bussiniess that knowingly hires an illegal should be fined a huge fine some where in the line of $10k.

Anyone knowingly harboring  illegals should be fined for aiding and abetting a criminal.

Any illegal that is caught committing another Crime should be automatically deported.

London808, can you give us a brief description on what it takes to immigrate here legally.  Applying, how much of your time spent, cost, how long it takes, etc.

How about amnesty and a path to legal citizenship IF they can prove that they paid taxes?

Those would be the people worth keeping in the country.

If they are here illegally they can't get a SS number. So they technically cannot pay taxes.

If they are here illegally they can't get a SS number. So they technically cannot pay taxes.

Actually, the IRS doesn't care as long as they get revenue from illegals ....

IRS doesn’t tell 1M taxpayers that illegals stole their Social Security numbers
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/30/irs-doesnt-tell-1-million-taxpayers-that-illegal-i/


Immigrants stealing U.S. Social Security numbers for jobs, not profits - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Camber Lybbert thought it was a mistake when her bank told her that her daughter's Social Security number, issued by the U.S. government,
was on their files for two credit cards and two auto loans, with an outstanding balance of more than $25,000.

Her daughter is 3 years old.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/world/americas/04iht-id.2688618.html

No, as owning a car is not the proceeds of a crime, unless you use the car for racing in which case they can already seize the car (its in the law)

They seize the property of criminals who gain that property through the act of committing crimes  (such as drug dealing) all the time and I have no problem what so ever.

I guess I see your point but enforcement wouldn't be practical.  It would discourage hardworking illegals.  I rather kick out all the criminals and unproductive people first.  There are millions upon millions of illegals we shouldn't start with the ones not causing too many issues.

If they are here illegally they can't get a SS number. So they technically cannot pay taxes.

No incorrect.

An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) lets you file an income tax return if you do not have a valid Social Security Number. The ITIN is a 9 digit number that you can request and receive from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).