What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!? (Read 11161 times)

Inspector

What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« on: February 14, 2012, 12:15:16 PM »
Normally I don't write bad things about people or organizations (Except maybe Obama and Brady LOL!), but now I have to complain about the HRA.

Back in mid December I received a renewal notice from them and sent them a check which included extra money for a t-shirt. To this day my check has not cleared. So I want to know if I should put a stop on it. So in January I wrote an e-mail to the Treasurer. I have not received an answer to this day. In late January I wrote to the President of the HRA. To this day I have not received an answer. So in the last newsletter I recieved there is an e-mail address and phone number to call for membership issues. So I wrote to the e-mail address. I have not recieved an answer. So last week I called the phone number. I have yet to received a call back.

If someone would reply to me and tell me they never received my check, I will be happy to send a new check and place a stop on the old check. Or if they have it and are waiting to cash it for some reason I would appreciate it if they would let me know. But no one will return my inquiries. I am rather taken aback by their lack of communication that I am considering putting a stop on the check anyway and calling it quits with them.

Also, I am thinking about letting them know what I think of their ignoring me when I see them at the gun show in March.

Sorry about the rant. I just had to tell someone.
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GZire

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 01:18:02 PM »
..............the bastards!!!............

Dregs

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 02:43:21 PM »
Watch out...the President might write a letter that accuses you of lying and that their staff are all volunteers and did nothing wrong and that you made a mistake somewhere, etc etc. j/k j/k.

I would be disheartened too, but I'm sure they are busy for some reason. Hopefully the issue gets resolved here, as posting this was probably your last ditch effort.

*Edit*
Which reminds me...I should join too O_o

WayneBrady

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 02:53:53 PM »
Go see Dan at Kaneohe Gun shop he is the HRA Oahu director he must have your check!

HiCarry

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 04:58:35 PM »
Normally I don't write bad things about people or organizations (Except maybe Obama and Brady LOL!), but now I have to complain about the HRA.

Back in mid December I received a renewal notice from them and sent them a check which included extra money for a t-shirt. To this day my check has not cleared. So I want to know if I should put a stop on it. So in January I wrote an e-mail to the Treasurer. I have not received an answer to this day. In late January I wrote to the President of the HRA. To this day I have not received an answer. So in the last newsletter I recieved there is an e-mail address and phone number to call for membership issues. So I wrote to the e-mail address. I have not recieved an answer. So last week I called the phone number. I have yet to received a call back.

If someone would reply to me and tell me they never received my check, I will be happy to send a new check and place a stop on the old check. Or if they have it and are waiting to cash it for some reason I would appreciate it if they would let me know. But no one will return my inquiries. I am rather taken aback by their lack of communication that I am considering putting a stop on the check anyway and calling it quits with them.

Also, I am thinking about letting them know what I think of their ignoring me when I see them at the gun show in March.

Sorry about the rant. I just had to tell someone.
I apologize for the problems. As an all volunteer organization, we try our best to keep on top of things. But, as is evidenced in your case, we obviously dropped the ball. Why don't you PM me with the particulars of your situation and I will make sure we get this taken care of for you.

HiCarry

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 05:02:31 PM »
Watch out...the President might write a letter that accuses you of lying and that their staff are all volunteers and did nothing wrong and that you made a mistake somewhere, etc etc. j/k j/k.

I would be disheartened too, but I'm sure they are busy for some reason. Hopefully the issue gets resolved here, as posting this was probably your last ditch effort.

*Edit*
Which reminds me...I should join too O_o
Yeah, with the legislative session in full swing, those of us that try to actually get tot the hearings and also try to maintain the day-to-day responsibilities of running the organization can get a bit busy. I spend about 20+ hours a week trying to be an advocate for all of Hawaii's shooters......thanks for the support.

Inspector

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 06:16:29 PM »
I apologize for the problems. As an all volunteer organization, we try our best to keep on top of things. But, as is evidenced in your case, we obviously dropped the ball. Why don't you PM me with the particulars of your situation and I will make sure we get this taken care of for you.
PM Sent. Thanks!!!
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spanner1751

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 07:28:09 PM »

Back in mid December I received a renewal notice from them and sent them a check which included extra money for a t-shirt. To this day my check has not cleared.

Thanks for reminding me. I sent them a check for $100 in mid-December that hasn't cleared too. 

Inspector

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 07:41:36 PM »
Thanks for reminding me. I sent them a check for $100 in mid-December that hasn't cleared too.
Don't ask me why but I had a strange feeling they got the check and didn't deposit it for some unknown reason. I think this just reinforces that my feeling is correct.
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rswarrior1700

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2012, 02:00:22 PM »
They are really busy with other things outside their organization I received my envelope for my membership, but they send me an empty envelope but we clear up that problem.

HiCarry

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 02:34:22 PM »
Thanks for reminding me. I sent them a check for $100 in mid-December that hasn't cleared too. 
PM me with your contact info and particulars and I will look into your situation as well. Thanks.

Cougar8045

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 09:56:23 PM »
I don't know much about the HRA, but I have a feeling that it runs like a lot of other gun organizations I've been around; a tiny handful of dedicated people work their tails off, and a dozen or so fair-weather volunteers may or may not pitch in when asked.  Basically, in the modern era where anyone can publish a fully polished and shiny website, get cool T-shirts custom made, etc, it's easy to forget that sometimes these organizations essentially boil down to a couple of guys who meet in someone's living room once or twice a month, wife's mood permitting.  They're not big corporations with full-time employees like the Brady Campaign.  We've got a small gun community out here, let's make sure we all stay friends!
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Funtimes

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 12:28:06 AM »
I don't know much about the HRA, but I have a feeling that it runs like a lot of other gun organizations I've been around; a tiny handful of dedicated people work their tails off, and a dozen or so fair-weather volunteers may or may not pitch in when asked.  Basically, in the modern era where anyone can publish a fully polished and shiny website, get cool T-shirts custom made, etc, it's easy to forget that sometimes these organizations essentially boil down to a couple of guys who meet in someone's living room once or twice a month, wife's mood permitting.  They're not big corporations with full-time employees like the Brady Campaign.  We've got a small gun community out here, let's make sure we all stay friends!

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mishka

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 05:08:31 PM »
Same issue here, the check I sent in mid Dec is still uncleared, no t-shirts received.  I'm patient, as long as it wasn't lost.

spanner1751

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 05:10:24 PM »
PM me with your contact info and particulars and I will look into your situation as well. Thanks.

I received my card today - thanks!!!

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Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2012, 04:46:23 AM »
HiCarry, in case you feel unappreciated, thanks for all you do for the community. I am truly amazed by how much you do.
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Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2012, 07:48:52 AM »
HiCarry, in case you feel unappreciated, thanks for all you do for the community. I am truly amazed by how much you do.

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While it is truly sad that someone has to post disgruntled sentiment on a forum to be taken care of, it is commendable that "Hicarry" took it upon himself to rectify these situations without any responsibility to do so.

There's at least 1 person in the HRA that isn't too high makamaka to help people.
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Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2012, 11:07:17 AM »
I don't know much about the HRA, but I have a feeling that it runs like a lot of other gun organizations I've been around; a tiny handful of dedicated people work their tails off, and a dozen or so fair-weather volunteers may or may not pitch in when asked.  Basically, in the modern era where anyone can publish a fully polished and shiny website, get cool T-shirts custom made, etc, it's easy to forget that sometimes these organizations essentially boil down to a couple of guys who meet in someone's living room once or twice a month, wife's mood permitting.  They're not big corporations with full-time employees like the Brady Campaign.  We've got a small gun community out here, let's make sure we all stay friends!
An entirely correct assessment....we are grateful to our members that step up and devote so much of their free time to help. You are correct in that it is generally a few dedicated individuals who do the bulk of the work, and without them we'd be lost. Each one of them are committed to pushing our agenda and serving our members. There is not a selfish or arogant bone in them. So, thank you (and everyone else) who have had difficulties. We appreciate your patience and understanding. We are moving toward a different (and better) system of tracking membership and payments, so hopefully this will alleviate some of the problems. But until then, if you have any problems, please feel free to PM me and I will look into it. Mahalo!

HiCarry

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2012, 11:08:50 AM »
Same issue here, the check I sent in mid Dec is still uncleared, no t-shirts received.  I'm patient, as long as it wasn't lost.
PM me your specifics and I will look into it. We got a little backed up over the holidays but stuff is being processed and sent out. Sorry for the delay.

HiCarry

Re: What's Up with the HRA?!?!?!?!?!?
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2012, 11:10:44 AM »
HiCarry, in case you feel unappreciated, thanks for all you do for the community. I am truly amazed by how much you do.
Thank you. But, it is not just me. Without the help and dedication of the many "behind the scenes" members, I couldn't do any of it.