Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock (Read 21273 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2017, 02:09:19 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

tillamook

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2017, 08:17:05 AM »
There will be reimbursement for the stock I bought years ago right? I wonder how many times I've gone from legal citizen to criminal with a strike of the pen. 

There will be assistance for the employees of Slidefire to get new work, moving expenses and help transition their benefits like health insurance right?  If slidefire has any business loans the owner will get assistance for paying those back right?  How about the manufactures of every faster trigger?  should they start looking for new jobs now or wait for their companies to be closed down as well?

drck1000

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2017, 08:33:42 AM »
I don't think leaving the NRA is a good answer. It's obvious that ONE organization strikes fear in most Democrats that want to take guns away from us. A leadership change? Yes. But don't dwindle our membership numbers. They are dividing us.

Was listening to an interview on NPR yesterday for a writer that covers NRA.  If what he's saying is true, the NRA has affected quite a bit, particularly at the state levels.  Obviously not here.  Of course his coverage was swayed anti-gun, but he did bring up a lot of good points.  Like how NRA is almost like a cult religion in a way.  I forget exactly what he said, but it rang true. 

I don't think we should just give up bump fire stocks
We should at least get national reciprocity in a deal for the bump fire stocks
If we give up something, we should get something in return
I could care less about slide fire stocks, but I have never seen the "give up something to get something back" work when it comes to gun rights/laws. 

stangzilla

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2017, 08:45:01 AM »
I don't care about bump fire myself
I just don't want us to start off on a slippery slope down gun grabbers and AR parts banners mountain

Rhed

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2017, 08:49:36 AM »
IMO, no matter what, I'm sure after this terrible inccedent there will be aloft more strict gun laws to be enforced. In all levels.

drck1000

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2017, 08:51:20 AM »
I don't care about bump fire myself
I just don't want us to start off on a slippery slope down gun grabbers and AR parts banners mountain
I hear that.  Seems like take a little here, concede a little there, etc has been the norm the past 8-10 years (longer really).  It would be good to get some things back, or return to more freedom.  Sadly, I don't see that happening.  Though I won't stop supporting the effort.

One bright (or maybe faint light) that I've seen are folk who are usually totally anti-gun conceding need of say handgun for self defense.  Even going so far as to say that they are either looking into getting one to so far as planning on getting on themselves. 

rklapp

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2017, 11:14:49 AM »
This is a new tactic with the NRA. We'll give you this if you give us that. I wonder if they know what they're doing?

In Union negotiations, the company usually initially offers a generous raise if the Union members will start paying more for their healthcare. Of course, paying more for their healthcare is unacceptable so the company concedes in exchange for a less than generous pay raise. It's negotiation 101.

First we will have to see if there will be a need to negotiate with the politicians. The reciprocal CCW is unacceptable to a significant number of politicians, so I'm curious what the NRA's next move will be.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2017, 11:38:41 AM »
I see the bump stock as a novelty item.  It gives a semi-auto rifle the functionality of a full-auto, and to me, that has limited application for defensive firearms.

I do, however, see many practical applications for suppressors and/or nationwide CCW.  Given a chance to get either or both of those, I'd have no problem banning the bump stock.

We gave up so many other gun rights under the guise of compromise, it's nice to actually have a chance to GET something in exchange -- other than "we want to ban all guns, so we're giving that up if you give up X."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

rklapp

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Bunker

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2017, 03:59:16 PM »
Ghetto AK version (courtesy of 10Gauge)....pretty cheap and easy if someone wants to make a device to increase the rate of fire.




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1. Tapco Inrafuse Stock $49.00
2. Two 'L' brackets $2.50
3. Screws $0.50
4. Can of matte black spray paint $2.00
Total: $54


1. Mount Intrafuse Stock to your AK-47

2. Remove the Stock Retaining Latch. Rotate the nut on the latch until you see the slot, there is a roll pin in this slot, tap out the roll pin, then unscrew the nut. The latch will now slide off.

3. Now that you have the latch off file down the edges (so that when assembled the latch can be pulled down and rotated sideways holding the latch open, thus allowing the stock to slide freely)

4. Reassemble the latch (don't for get to put the roll pin back in) and check the function as described above.

5. Remove rear sling swivel

6. Bend 'L' Bracket as seen in photo (using a vise to bend works best)

7. Line up the hole in the 'L' Bracket with sling swivel hole in the stock and screw together.

8. Drill hole in pistol grip, and screw 'L' Bracket to pistol grip (remove the original pistol grip screw and nut, the idea is to make the pistol grip and buttstock into one piece that slides freely back and forth on the Buffer Tube aka. stock extension).

9. cut a piece of an 'L' Bracket for use as a finger rest, screw it into the side of the pistol grip.

10. Spray paint to make it look good and protect the steel 'L' Bracket.
It is now ready to fire. If you wish to not bumpfire, all you've got to do is rotate the Stock Retaining latch around and let it spring back into place (this will lock up the stock so that you can shoot regularly).

drck1000

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2017, 08:02:57 AM »
Ghetto AK version (courtesy of 10Gauge)....pretty cheap and easy if someone wants to make a device to increase the rate of fire.



Ghetto version?  There are tons of videos of the "bubba version" where they fire the gun from the hip. 

changemyoil66

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2017, 08:54:55 AM »
Didn't the ATF make it illegal to use string to help bump fire?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2017, 09:23:32 AM »
Didn't the ATF make it illegal to use string to help bump fire?

They did, but later reversed it.

Specifically a 14" length of string ....     :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2017, 09:24:34 AM »
They did, but later reversed it.

Specifically a 14" length of string ....     :rofl:
Needs to be 16.01" or more. . .  :thumbsup:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Las Vegas shooter used a bump fire stock
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2017, 09:27:29 AM »
Didn't the ATF make it illegal to use string to help bump fire?

Here it is ... the shoestring machine gun.

https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/01/25/shoestring-machine-gun/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw