2nd time flying with a handgun. The agent didnt even ask me to open the locked case. She gave me the orange tag to put inside my suitcase myself.

Pretty awesome.

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Can you still just throw box of ammo in checked bags or does it have to be in a hard case now it’s been awhile since I traveled with my pistol

Can you still just throw box of ammo in checked bags or does it have to be in a hard case now it’s been awhile since I traveled with my pistol

I just came back from Virginia with ammo in the original packing in my luggage.

I travel at least twice a week on Hawaiian with a firearm checked. Ammo can be placed in your luggage as long as it’s packed in original packaging (not loose packed). Starting this week, ammo must be declared at checkin due to a new system for Hawaiians new A321 NEO aircraft. Reason is that ammo has to be placed into a specific cargo compartment because the heat in other compartments may cause the ammo to exploded. This is the explanation given to me from a Chief customer service agent at HNL.

I travel at least twice a week on Hawaiian with a firearm checked. Ammo can be placed in your luggage as long as it’s packed in original packaging (not loose packed). Starting this week, ammo must be declared at checkin due to a new system for Hawaiians new A321 NEO aircraft. Reason is that ammo has to be placed into a specific cargo compartment because the heat in other compartments may cause the ammo to exploded. This is the explanation given to me from a Chief customer service agent at HNL.

Ill have to declare my MacNut chocolates next time for fear they might melt in that compartment , Because its so hot in that compartment that ammo will explode.

I travel at least twice a week on Hawaiian with a firearm checked. Ammo can be placed in your luggage as long as it’s packed in original packaging (not loose packed). Starting this week, ammo must be declared at checkin due to a new system for Hawaiians new A321 NEO aircraft. Reason is that ammo has to be placed into a specific cargo compartment because the heat in other compartments may cause the ammo to exploded. This is the explanation given to me from a Chief customer service agent at HNL.

400 degrees?  I don't think so!   

But the fact is, it has to be over 400 degrees inside your car in order for the ammunition to “explode.” And if it gets that hot
in your car you’re probably not on Earth, but in a place governed by a fellow with horns and a pitchfork.

https://www.usacarry.com/safe-store-guns-ammo-hot-car/

I travel at least twice a week on Hawaiian with a firearm checked. Ammo can be placed in your luggage as long as it’s packed in original packaging (not loose packed). Starting this week, ammo must be declared at checkin due to a new system for Hawaiians new A321 NEO aircraft. Reason is that ammo has to be placed into a specific cargo compartment because the heat in other compartments may cause the ammo to exploded. This is the explanation given to me from a Chief customer service agent at HNL.

In other words, the customer service agent doesn't know what they're talking about.

Was reading Hawaiians terms closer and it says:

"Ammunition must be packed separately from the firearm unless the firearm case allows for designated ammunition stowage."

I've always thrown the ammo in the Pelican case with the unloaded firearm.  For my trip this weekend, that actually puts my case close to where I might have to pay the overweight charge.  For my, all around easier if I have the ammo in the Pelican case.  That said, I could easily put the ammo in the checked bag with my clothes.  Interesting that Hawaiian's policy is so specific about this and different from TSA's.  I have a small ammo box that I can lock as well and might take that along just in case I get a "special" gate agent. 

Was reading Hawaiians terms closer and it says:

"Ammunition must be packed separately from the firearm unless the firearm case allows for designated ammunition stowage."

I've always thrown the ammo in the Pelican case with the unloaded firearm.  For my trip this weekend, that actually puts my case close to where I might have to pay the overweight charge.  For my, all around easier if I have the ammo in the Pelican case.  That said, I could easily put the ammo in the checked bag with my clothes.  Interesting that Hawaiian's policy is so specific about this and different from TSA's.  I have a small ammo box that I can lock as well and might take that along just in case I get a "special" gate agent.

I wonder if this means separately as in not all in the same case  or in a separate suitcase?  Like you mentioned, you could always get that "special" HA gate checker.

I wonder if this means separately as in not all in the same case  or in a separate suitcase?  Like you mentioned, you could always get that "special" HA gate checker.

I took it to mean that not in the same checked bag as the firearm.  My rifle case is already packed and the ammo is in there, but I'm planning to be able to transfer the ammo to my other checked bag. 

I've also had a range of gate agents for other airlines.  Some pulled me to the side to inspect the case.  Others handed me the orange tag and had me put the tag in the case.  I've had one argue with me that it's supposed to be a TSA lock, and I've had one that almost accepted the case without giving me the orange tag. 

Was reading Hawaiians terms closer and it says:

"Ammunition must be packed separately from the firearm unless the firearm case allows for designated ammunition stowage."

Is that another way of saying gun has to be unloaded?

Is that another way of saying gun has to be unloaded?

Could be.  Hopefully it's that simple.

Not a big deal either way.  Might actually be better for me to take the weight out of my rifle case.  My other checked bag is a larger duffel, so I kinda didn't want to put the ammo in there.  But I'm planning on taking a small ammo can if I end up needing to put the ammo in that checked bag.   

400 degrees?  I don't think so!   

https://www.usacarry.com/safe-store-guns-ammo-hot-car/

And now with HA closing their drive-up drop off, we now will have to go into the terminal to do firearms declarations. It was easy outside. Declare and go...

http://www.kitv.com/story/38070498/hawaiian-airlines-closes-drive-thru-check-in

I know  a guy who traveled and the airline didn't allow ammo at all.  So he had to stop at walmart to buy some.  It's like having a paper weight inside your waistband.

I took it to mean that not in the same checked bag as the firearm.  My rifle case is already packed and the ammo is in there, but I'm planning to be able to transfer the ammo to my other checked bag. 

I've also had a range of gate agents for other airlines.  Some pulled me to the side to inspect the case.  Others handed me the orange tag and had me put the tag in the case.  I've had one argue with me that it's supposed to be a TSA lock, and I've had one that almost accepted the case without giving me the orange tag.

If you're traveling with one checked bag containing a locked pistol case and a box of ammo, I don't think the airline is going to require that you pay for another checked bag for the ammo.

That part about the "firearm case allows for designated ammunition stowage" implies they aren't worried about keeping the ammo physically separate from the gun as much as making sure the ammo isn't bouncing around inside the luggage.  Some airlines are requiring the ammo also be in a locked container now.  It's reasonable these instructions are trying to say that without being too explicit.

I hate when someone gives me their interpretation of the solution instead of detailing the problem.  If they'd just say what they are trying to accomplish, the methods we use should be okay as long as those objectives are met.

If you're traveling with one checked bag containing a locked pistol case and a box of ammo, I don't think the airline is going to require that you pay for another checked bag for the ammo.

That part about the "firearm case allows for designated ammunition stowage" implies they aren't worried about keeping the ammo physically separate from the gun as much as making sure the ammo isn't bouncing around inside the luggage.  Some airlines are requiring the ammo also be in a locked container now.  It's reasonable these instructions are trying to say that without being too explicit.

I hate when someone gives me their interpretation of the solution instead of detailing the problem.  If they'd just say what they are trying to accomplish, the methods we use should be okay as long as those objectives are met.

I could def see the locked pistol case and ammo box contained in a checked bag as meeting Hawaiian's definition.  In my case, the rifle is just in there and so is the ammo.  Not too concerned either case, but yeah, curious as to Hawaiian's wording.  In my mind, "designated ammo stowage" was a separate compartment for ammo, which I can't really envision.  Will find out tomorrow. 

What was also useless was the call to notify the reservation department of my intention to have a firearm in my checked bag. 

I think TSA's rules are clear on firearms and ammo.  Not sure why each airline needed to state anything otherwise, at least for travel in the US.  Reminds me of a coworker who thinks they are being super insightful when they are basically regurgitating the same thing someone else said, but in a different way. 

I’ve had ammo in the locked case as well as in my regular checked bag. Main thing is that they don’t want loose rounds so cannot be in a bag or dumped in a box. Depending on the airline I usually transport my ammo in mags which is within TSA regulations.

Rules may have changed as last October I transported factory boxed ammo and firearms (in locked hard sided box) in a hard sided TSA lockable suit case.
Just so we're all on the same page, I downloaded from Hawaiian Airlines baggage info page today....

http://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/677/~/firearms-%26-ammunition

Firearms & ammunition
If you plan to check a firearm, you will need to do the following:

Call the Hawaiian Airlines Reservations Department to provide advance notice. (1-800-367-5320 reservation # for firearms)
Review all federal, state, local, and international laws regarding transportation of firearms
Pack your firearm and ammunition according to our guidelines
At check-in, declare your firearm to a Hawaiian Airlines representative, who will inspect it and help you complete the necessary paperwork.
Guests under 18 may not check firearms. Packed firearms over 70 lbs. will not be accepted. All other normal bag fees apply. 

Packing your firearm properly
Firearms must be unloaded
Firearms must be packed in either a manufacturer's crush-proof type container made specifically for the firearms OR a hard-sided container specifically designed for the same purpose.
The container must be hard-sided and locked with a key or lock combination possessed only by you, the passenger. Note: It’s OK to pack firearms in a crushproof container with no lock and then in a locked, hard-sided suitcase.

Packing your ammunition properly
Ammunition cannot be transported while loaded into a firearm or magazine (e.g. akumalio could not  transport my his ammo in mags on Hawaiian Airlines even though it is within TSA regulation. See  Pack your firearm and ammunition according to our guidelines above)
Ammunition must be packed separately in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes. Loose or bulk packaging in bags or boxes will not be accepted. Note: Store bought items do not necessarily equate to manufacturer’s original packaging.
No more than 11 lbs. of ammunition per person may be transported. Per person ammunition allowances cannot be combined and must be transported separately.

I see nothing regarding  "designated ammunition stowage".
Please post link.

  As "Packing your Firearm Properly" and  "Packing your Ammunition Properly" are listed as separate subjects, I interpret "Ammunition must be packed separately" as in separate from firearm, and to me that means no ammo IN any "manufacturer's crush-proof type container made specifically for the firearm OR a hard-sided container specifically designed for the same purpose THAT ALSO CONTAINS A FIREARM..
 
    So  next time I travel I will have no ammo in my gun box or rifle case.
I will have my 11 lbs of  ammo in it's "manufacturer's original package" "securely packed"  inside of a metal ammo can NEXT TO my firearm which will be locked inside a "manufacturer's crush-proof type container made specifically for the firearm OR a hard-sided container specifically designed for the same purpose" which is also locked to the inside of my luggage.

Phew !`

 Like Archie Bunker said, "The way to stop all  deez here hajackin's is to give each passenger a gun when dey get on the plane".