How did the police find out who are and aren't legal marijuana users?  Unless they sent out a request for info to the medical providers for registered users, they woudn't know who are current gunowners with marijuana cards unless they tried to register and got denied.

How is the surrender of firearms "voluntary"? Whether or not you bring them down to the station yourself or the cops kick your door in with a warrant, it's a mandatory confiscation.  Just another example of how law abiding citizens trying to do things the right and legal way get shafted.  Great start by our new chief!  /sarcasm

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The Honolulu Police Department has told legal marijuana users who own guns that they must turn in their weapons within 30 days.

In a letter to about 30 medical marijuana card holders on Oahu, the police said “you have 30 days upon receipt of this letter to voluntarily surrender your firearms.”


http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/11/28/breaking-news/honolulu-police-tell-legal-marijuana-users-to-turn-in-their-firearms/

I guess that if you own firearms you waive rights under HIPAA

They have always made you sign the paper saying you are not under the influence of an illegal substance, and you are prohibited from it.  It is there in the law and also federal law.  Do I think it's right, NO.  Only recourse now is for MM holders to sue, sadly, I don't think it's winnable, until the nationally legalize it.

They are picking the low hanging fruit in anticipation of the many bills that will come forth next year.  IMHO

Good thing all or guns are registered..........

They have always made you sign the paper saying you are not under the influence of an illegal substance, and you are prohibited from it.  It is there in the law and also federal law.  Do I think it's right, NO.  Only recourse now is for MM holders to sue, sadly, I don't think it's winnable, until the nationally legalize it.

well medical marijuana legal in hawaii, but not at the federal level so I see what you're saying.  They're now taking the extra step of going after current gunowners instead of just preventing them from acquiring more firearms at the permitting stage.

Are cops even allowed to use people's medical records in this way?  Not the perfect example, but it would be like going through the medical files and seeing who the top people are in alcohol abuse counseling, then staking out their house or bar they like to frequent.  I think denying people from acquiring new firearms may have had reasonable justification, but this is overstepping their bounds.  Giving the medical providers a list of all registered firearms owners and demanding to know which ones are in medical treatment or have a marijuana card is the same thing as going through people's medical records.  It's akin to searching without a warrant.

But yeah, this pretty much kills the hopes of anyone thinking that this chief may be firearm friendly.

Good thing all or guns are registered..........

Yup
Registration works just as advertised.

this is only a "breaking news" article on staradvertiser and getting a ton of attention.  Glad to say the majority of the comments are positive with most people thinking hpd is overstepping their bounds.

You can ask your state legislative representative to pass a law making firearm ownership allowed while taking medical marijuana.  This would prevent HPD from confiscating guns.  Still illegal Federally (so is marijuana anyways) and you won't be able to buy a gun, but it'll prevent confiscation.

So if you don’t have a registered med mj card but smoke paka illegally and have an unregistered illegal gun you don’t have to turn your gun in.  But if you have a registered mj card and legally registered firearm you have to surrender your firearm to hpd. 

Hmm sucks to be a law abiding rap back sucker!  Hope they don’t make me register my chihuahua!

So if you don’t have a registered med mj card but smoke paka illegally and have an unregistered illegal gun you don’t have to turn your gun in.  But if you have a registered mj card and legally registered firearm you have to surrender your firearm to hpd. 

Hmm sucks to be a law abiding rap back sucker!  Hope they don’t make me register my chihuahua!

Actually, if you have unregistered guns, you can get the MJ card and keep your guns.  Likewise, if you only smoke illegally, you can register your guns as required, assuming you never got arrested and put in rhab. 

As you said, you only get guns confiscated if you follow both laws, or if you get caught for breaking whichever law you broke.  What the Cops don't know, won't hurt you.

Luckily, no one on this site does anything illegal.

Good thing all or guns are registered..........

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Yeah, I feel safer already.

Hmm sucks to be a law abiding rap back sucker!  Hope they don’t make me register my chihuahua!

that's cool to say now, until they come up with a rule that all current registered gun owners need rapback or the guns will get confiscated.  They're trying to force gun insurance down everyones throats, what makes you think rapback is any different? They just started rapback less than a year ago.  Making all registered owners subject to rapback requirement is the logical next step.   They're slowly tightening the noose, and seeing what they can get away with.    Figure the below equation out.

no medical marijuana  =  requirement to register new firearms
rapback                        = requirement to register new firearms
no medical marijuana  = requirement to continue owning firearms
rapback                        = ____________________________

You can ask your state legislative representative to pass a law making firearm ownership allowed while taking medical marijuana.  This would prevent HPD from confiscating guns.  Still illegal Federally (so is marijuana anyways) and you won't be able to buy a gun, but it'll prevent confiscation.

So why is the HPD enforcing a Federal Law? Does HPD have jurisdiction for US Codes?

they could require a drug test for permit to acquire

So why is the HPD enforcing a Federal Law? Does HPD have jurisdiction for US Codes?

  §134-7  Ownership or possession prohibited, when; penalty.  (a)  No person who is a fugitive from justice or is a person prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition under federal law shall own, possess, or control any firearm or ammunition therefor.

(h)  Any person violating subsection (a) or (b) shall be guilty of a class C felony;

Honolulu only wants to enforce the laws it likes.
Illegal Immigration they'll pass on that.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/35457736/honolulus-stance-on-illegal-immigrants-and-becoming-a-sanctuary-city

Honolulu City Councilmembers have asked the mayor and HPD not to use any county resources to help the federal government enforce immigration law.

Mayor Caldwell and Acting Police Chief Cary Okimoto say they won't, unless the feds ask for help with specific cases.

"We don't go out and enforce immigration violations.

Honolulu only wants to enforce the laws it likes.
Illegal Immigration they'll pass on that.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/35457736/honolulus-stance-on-illegal-immigrants-and-becoming-a-sanctuary-city

Honolulu City Councilmembers have asked the mayor and HPD not to use any county resources to help the federal government enforce immigration law.

Mayor Caldwell and Acting Police Chief Cary Okimoto say they won't, unless the feds ask for help with specific cases.

"We don't go out and enforce immigration violations.

unless an illegal immigrant stole a mailbox

Sounds like AG Chin may be behind this?

I wouldnt volunteer and have to wait who knows how long in line. Tell HPD come ur house at x time and D day.

Make sure video/live stream everything.

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There are differences between the 3 issues

Guns and medical MJ - Stated in Hawaii law.  Amend law to allow for MJ & guns if you want.

Immigration - No state law requiring police to turn in immigrants...or at least I think there's no law, never looked it up.

medical MJ - Stated in Hawaii law.