Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate (Read 12244 times)

RSN172

Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« on: December 12, 2017, 07:57:35 PM »
For first time in 25 years Alabama has a Democrat to replace Jeff Sessions seat.  Republicans now have only a +1 majority.  Bad news for 2A rights, especially with a no balls SCOTUS who are too afraid to take a right to carry case and settle this once and for all.
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ren

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 08:32:00 PM »
aww f***k
recount!? :'(
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dafrtknocker

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 08:35:40 PM »
We can thank Senate Leader Mitch McConnell,spent millions in the primary to trash the conservative, which only helped Democrats against Roy Moore.

Heavies

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 02:11:50 AM »
The Senate needs to pass CCW before the end of the year.

RSN172

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 05:56:45 AM »
The Senate needs to pass CCW before the end of the year.

I don't think that is going to happen.  They all like go home for the holidays.  We have a do nothing Congress and a gutless Supreme Court.
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RSN172

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2017, 06:42:20 AM »
After Daniel Inouye died, the HI Gov was able to name Schitz to take his place without an election.  Is the Alabama law different?  Could the Alabama Gov have just appointed a replacement for Sessions?
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drck1000

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 07:54:33 AM »
After Daniel Inouye died, the HI Gov was able to name Schitz to take his place without an election.  Is the Alabama law different?  Could the Alabama Gov have just appointed a replacement for Sessions?
I was wondering the same thing.  The MN Governor named their Dem Lt. Gov to replace Al Franken.  I assumed it depends on each state to specify how it goes. 

2ahavvaii

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 08:19:41 AM »
state laws are different

they could always take a pagebook from obama and pass it  the same way obamacare got passed

Heavies

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 09:05:06 AM »
After Daniel Inouye died, the HI Gov was able to name Schitz to take his place without an election.  Is the Alabama law different?  Could the Alabama Gov have just appointed a replacement for Sessions?
All Hawaii lawmakers are appointed.  If the people look like they might go for a different pick, than the chosen ones, they run out of ballots, and you know, traffic and such....  but don't worry, they investigated themselves, and found no foul play.

drck1000

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 10:42:45 AM »
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The Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution (1913) established direct election of senators, as well as a means of filling vacant Senate seats. If a vacancy occurs due to a senator's death, resignation, or expulsion, the Seventeenth Amendment allows state legislatures to empower the governor to appoint a replacement to complete the term or to hold office until a special election can take place. There are a few exceptions to this rule. Some states require a special election to fill a vacancy. A few states require the governor to appoint a replacement of the same political party as the previous incumbent. The date when a senator appointed to fill a vacancy is succeeded by a senator elected to fill the remainder of the term depends on a number of factors.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/senators_appointed.htm

Learned today that Akaka was appointed back in 1990. 

drck1000

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 10:43:34 AM »

changemyoil66

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2017, 12:23:46 PM »
The republicans need to come together like how the dems do to bash Trump.  They need to protect him.  But they're to afraid of being associated with him to do much.  So basically it's Trump vs. everyone else. 

Although in Moores case, he was treated unfairly by the media, especially after 1 of his accusers admitted to forging the yearbook.  But regarding issues, I'm 50/50 for Jones/Moore.

1 reason why I did like Moore was because he's pro 2A.  He took out his EDC while giving a speech.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2017, 03:19:28 PM »
We can thank Senate Leader Mitch McConnell,spent millions in the primary to trash the conservative, which only helped Democrats against Roy Moore.

Wouldn't have mattered. Moore shot himself in the foot. No one to blame but him.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2017, 03:26:49 PM »
Wouldn't have mattered. Moore shot himself in the foot. No one to blame but him.

Yeah, he was stupid to set himself up as a sexual predator alleged to have happened over 30 years ago and using a forged yearbook signature as evidence.

What was he thinking?   :rofl: :rofl:.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2017, 03:36:08 PM »
Yeah, he was stupid to set himself up as a sexual predator alleged to have happened over 30 years ago and using a forged yearbook signature as evidence.

What was he thinking?   :rofl: :rofl:.


The yearbook was not proven to be forged for starters, way to misrepresent the facts. To clarify for everyone, she stated she added notes to the signature, which is not the same thing as forgery as you suggest.

And it wasn't just his MULTIPLE alleged sexual assault and inappropriate sexual behavior claims that did him in, he made stupid comments about it as well. Then of course there are his suspiciously racist comments like how America was great during slavery!?

McConnell didn't matter, in fact I think McConnell probably tried to do the best thing for the party.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2017, 03:42:24 PM »

The yearbook was not proven to be forged for starters, way to misrepresent the facts. To clarify for everyone, she stated she added notes to the signature, which is not the same thing as forgery as you suggest.

And it wasn't just his MULTIPLE alleged sexual assault and inappropriate sexual behavior claims that did him in, he made stupid comments about it as well. Then of course there are his suspiciously racist comments like how America was great during slavery!?

McConnell didn't matter, in fact I think McConnell probably tried to do the best thing for the party.

LOL!  I guess you're going to believe Snopes and not your "lying" eyes, huh?  Typical Liberal response.  We know she didn't forge the writing because she said she did write it, but didn't say so until the image was made available on the Internet?

She wouldn't lie about lying, would she?   :rofl:




The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

2ahavvaii

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2017, 03:45:38 PM »
even if part of it was forged, her lying about it (isn't she an attorney)?  cast into doubt the entire thing. 

They were going to test the ink, which is the only reason why she backtracked.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2017, 03:52:42 PM »
even if part of it was forged, her lying about it (isn't she an attorney)?  cast into doubt the entire thing. 

They were going to test the ink, which is the only reason why she backtracked.

You can tell by the signature comparison I posted the yearbook signature, independent of the "notes" added, is not even close.  The "R" at the start doesn't even follow the way he makes his "R". 

But, we have to believe her, because she has manufactured evidence, and he only has his word that her 30+ year old story that suddenly became public in an election is fabricated.

Sorry.  If you wait 30 years to come forward and only during a hotly contested election for the US Senate, and with a lawyer famous for representing others who only have accused Republicans/Conservatives, I'm going to disbelieve anything short of real, bonafide evidence.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2017, 04:04:28 PM »
Moore, as a judge, ruled against her in a divorce case (I believe in 1999). His signature was on the court document. Note that the "D.A." appeared on that court document as it is the initials of his secretary who signed those documents for the judge. Moore was not "District Attorney" in 1977, so he wouldn't have added "D.A." for any reason. I don't know, maybe the secretary had a time machine and went back to 1977 and signed the yearbook for him? Or maybe that was "another notation" the claimant added but forgot to mention?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Alabama elects Democrat for US Senate
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2017, 04:22:18 PM »
Moore, as a judge, ruled against her in a divorce case (I believe in 1999). His signature was on the court document. Note that the "D.A." appeared on that court document as it is the initials of his secretary who signed those documents for the judge. Moore was not "District Attorney" in 1977, so he wouldn't have added "D.A." for any reason. I don't know, maybe the secretary had a time machine and went back to 1977 and signed the yearbook for him? Or maybe that was "another notation" the claimant added but forgot to mention?

He said his signature in 1977 would have included "ADA" since he was an Assistant DA, which was what he added if he added anything.  So, it shows he did not, and would not, have used or added the "DA" in the yearbook.

I think only a DA would believe this woman to start with.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw