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zippz

SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« on: December 19, 2017, 08:24:41 PM »
I saw Star Wars Last Jedi tonight with lots of anticipation, but left feeling it was an average film.  Nothing really blew me away except when the cruiser turned into a hyperspace weapon.

Rey's time on the island seemed pointless.  Got backstory on Kylo but that's about it.  Rey didn't seem to get much training if any except for moving rocks. 
Disappointed in Luke's appearance, he didn't do much except for a minute fight scene at the end which was cool.
R2D2's role sucked too.
Snoke was a disappointment, he didn't do much either.
How was it that Kylo was more powerful as a kid than Luke, but  grew up to became wimpy emo Kylo.
Why were the red imperial guards almost as strong as Kylo and Rey?
Why didn't the rebels hyperspace the 2 other ships into the first order fleet?
Finn didn't do anything except go on a pointless mission and fail at destroying the battering ram.

Leia still didn't give Chewy a medal from the original Star Wars
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ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 08:50:00 PM »
aww fawk... :grrr:

Those are not the spoilers I seek
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suka

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 08:54:38 PM »
I couldn't understand the movie. It was all in Russian last week and this week in Spanish.

ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 09:05:19 PM »
I couldn't understand the movie. It was all in Russian last week and this week in Spanish.

use the Force  :thumbsup:
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suka

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 09:18:40 PM »

PeaShooter

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2017, 02:47:45 PM »
I thought it was well made and consistent with the feel of the previous movie, but I don't care for the story of disney wars in general. Yoda was shown teaching Luke even less, just moving rocks and don't go to the dark side. Luke actually watched Rey swing around her stick and had a stick fight with her. I didn't catch it while watching but supposedly Rey took all the Jedi texts with her before the place burned down, so when Episode 9 starts she is probably going to be stronger, like Luke suddenly was in Return of the Jedi, except even more so. She's probably going to get the green lightsaber too, the disney movies are all rehashes that way. The force also tells me that they are going to have a longer timeskip to Episode 9 than originally planned and it will probably just say in the opening credits that Leia rebuilt some rebel forces then died of old age.

I thought Snoke did everything he should have, his role was probably the most correct part of the movie. I expected it.

My friend said it was stupid that it takes a day to shoot down one rebel cruiser and I agree. Why doesn't it take a day to shoot down each imperial star destroyer? And yeah Finn was totally pointless, why are they even in this movie, they are wasting our time.

ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 03:18:09 PM »
I always wondered why they have AT-ATs when they have these craft that float, fly and do all sorts of anti-gravity things. I haven't seen one wheel yet/.
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zippz

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 03:24:22 PM »
I always wondered why they have AT-ATs when they have these craft that float, fly and do all sorts of anti-gravity things. I haven't seen one wheel yet/.

They have heavy armor and legs are better at going over rough terrain than wheels.  But yeah, would be better to have more flying stuff.  Perhaps the At At was on a closeout sale and they got a good deal on them.

suka

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 03:26:47 PM »

My friend said it was stupid that it takes a day to shoot down one rebel cruiser and I agree. Why doesn't it take a day to shoot down each imperial star destroyer? And yeah Finn was totally pointless, why are they even in this movie, they are wasting our time.

That is why never pay to watch a Hollywood movie.

ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 10:03:01 PM »
so the basic story revolves around snowflake Kylo Ren?
Another question is why the starships have to shoot each other at such close range as if they were 1800 era ships? Lasers can travel farther than that ???
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rklapp

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 06:22:10 AM »


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eyeeatingfish

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 12:18:44 PM »
I saw Star Wars Last Jedi tonight with lots of anticipation, but left feeling it was an average film.  Nothing really blew me away except when the cruiser turned into a hyperspace weapon.

Rey's time on the island seemed pointless.  Got backstory on Kylo but that's about it.  Rey didn't seem to get much training if any except for moving rocks. 
Disappointed in Luke's appearance, he didn't do much except for a minute fight scene at the end which was cool.
R2D2's role sucked too.
Snoke was a disappointment, he didn't do much either.
How was it that Kylo was more powerful as a kid than Luke, but  grew up to became wimpy emo Kylo.
Why were the red imperial guards almost as strong as Kylo and Rey?
Why didn't the rebels hyperspace the 2 other ships into the first order fleet?
Finn didn't do anything except go on a pointless mission and fail at destroying the battering ram.

Leia still didn't give Chewy a medal from the original Star Wars

I think it was just ok too. But I think that about all the star wars films. They all have rather big plot holes if you really think about it.

Originally I didn't like what they did with Kylo ren being like a big baby but after the second one and thinking about it, I think that is what they wanted him to be. Maybe Snoke fostered the emotional instability for his own purposes? But they did keep in tradition where the the dark side apprentices kill their masters so that was kinda good. I don't think Kylo was wimpy though, he was quite strong, just not stable.

Snoke was killed off before we could figure out much about him. Where did he come from, who was he, did Darth Vader train him? A cool but sort of anti-climatic death. He really needed to be developed more to explain the continuation of how the empire continued after the Emperor and Darth Vader died.

I thought it was stupid they didn't hyperspace into the fleet earlier. Plus, why sacrifice a person to pilot the ship? Why not just put a droid in control? You mean with all this advanced technology you cannot set autopilot?

And what is with the complete lack of vacuum in the star wars world? Only in one scene with Leia did they actually have an opening in space suck anything out.

And those bombers were slow as hell. Seriously, just puttering along like a blimp, and then one bomber took out the whole ship?

How the hell did Finn drag that girl back? They flew for like a minute at the ram and crashed but somehow he is able to pull her all the way back so quickly? Finn needed a romantic story I guess. I sort of felt there could be conflict between Rey and the asian girl Finn was with. Or maybe Finn and Rey are just a friend kind of relationship?

Why did Luke just vanish after projecting himself to stall? Just said "screw it, i'm out."

And what was that mirror thing under the island? Seemed pointless.

eyeeatingfish

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 12:21:17 PM »
I didn't catch it while watching but supposedly Rey took all the Jedi texts with her before the place burned down,

They were in a drawer on the millennium falcon. They could be seen briefly when Finn grabbed a blanket for the asian girl.

PeaShooter

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 01:27:27 PM »
Even though I had predicted that would happen to Snoke, it's still nice to see a movie do something that seems to go against planned destiny. Like for example when Anakin jumps from the car in Episode 2, I think "haha what if he just fell down and died right there." Or in Episode 2, "what if a random stormtrooper shot Luke while they were in the death star." Someone should make a funny collection of bad ending skits like that for movies.

My guess is that the mirror thing was some sort of poorly explained Jedi trial from Star Wars extended universe lore, like Luke's "failure at the cave."

Luke croaked because he pooped himself out. It was depicted clearly enough to me. You don't want it to be too obvious because then it wouldn't be a surprise and it would be embarrassing.

I read that they consider this trilogy to be the end of the Skywalker saga or something, so Kylo will have to die in the last movie. But for the time being a Skywalker finally rules the galaxy so I will cheer for the rebellion to be crushed once and for all in the finale.

PeaShooter

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 06:55:15 PM »
Wow this movie is turning out to be proof of corruption in hollywood reviews and fake news reporting. Originally it was reported that fan reviews were overwhelmingly positive and that all the negative fan reviews were the result of spam bots. But now the movie has been seen by too many and the floodgates are starting to open, and approval appears to be dropping to 90% negative (obviously due to the plot, not how well made the movie was).

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rian-johnson-addresses-last-jedi-004516405.html

I'm sorry but spambots don't write things like that in the comments of random internet articles. What's probably going to happen next is that mob mentality is going to take over and approval is going to drop further. For once I think that would be a good thing.

zippz

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 07:33:49 PM »
Luke got screwed.  I agree that his character got neutered.  I thought last jedi would give him redemption by giving him a heroic battle at the end where he would fling the ATAT's around and crush Kylo, but then do an Obiwan death.  I was sorely disappointed.

I hope they do a X-men like reboot in the final movie.  They go back in time and Luke is his old self again.





zippz

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 07:55:01 PM »
And what is with the complete lack of vacuum in the star wars world? Only in one scene with Leia did they actually have an opening in space suck anything out.

When they opened the door to let Leia in, I thought everyone was going to get sucked out to space.

ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2017, 10:05:05 AM »
Wonder Woman > Rey
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ren

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2017, 10:06:42 AM »
Luke got screwed.  I agree that his character got neutered.  I thought last jedi would give him redemption by giving him a heroic battle at the end where he would fling the ATAT's around and crush Kylo, but then do an Obiwan death.  I was sorely disappointed.

I hope they do a X-men like reboot in the final movie.  They go back in time and Luke is his old self again.





He sold out. Plain and simple. That's why I hate listening to these actors on political views and how the rest of us should be thinking.
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PeaShooter

Re: SW Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2017, 01:59:26 PM »
I respect him more for acting out (very well) a character that he didn't approve of and then speaking honestly about it afterward. If he said he liked his role, then to me that would be selling out.

Given the corruption in hollywood and the media, if he had said "screw this story I quit" they would probably find some way to hurt him. On the other hand, if he had said from the start "I won't participate" before knowing the story, then the producers would have had to accept that, but fans would have been disappointed in him.