Fireworks 12/31/17 (Read 14087 times)

hvybarrels

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2017, 10:11:29 PM »
More laws. That'll fix it!
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tillamook

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2017, 07:31:34 AM »
holy permits batman.

so permits to buy fireworks, limited time and amount and type?  Thank you gov for letting me celebrate my permitted freedom.  I cant wait to get my bathroom permits and my sunset observing permit and my banana growing permit.  So glad I am protected against myself.  Am I required to wear a diaper?  I did not get a remove diaper permit when I got here.   

RSN172

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2017, 08:12:15 AM »
Don't laugh too much about bathroom permits.  Anybody here remember the brief period of time about 50 years ago when you had to put a dime to unlock the restroom stall door at the airport?  Public outrage and broken doors ended that government money making scheme.
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changemyoil66

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2017, 08:38:23 AM »
this whole permit system is stupid
They should have retailers check their inventories to make sure people are just buying what their permits allow. I'd say the City should have a Fireworks Commission with inspectors. Have every package of fireworks serialized and accounted for. Every person getting a permit join us in the Rapback system.

Why not RAPBACK?  It's explosive powder.

ren

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2017, 07:51:00 PM »
I don't think these permits nor these laws banning illegals are having any effect... :rofl:
If I was the legislator that crafted any of those bills I'd be ashamed and just rescind it. Honolulu is laughing at these laws. O0
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Inspector

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2017, 07:53:38 PM »
I don't think these permits nor these laws banning illegals are having any effect... :rofl:
If I was the legislator that crafted any of those bills I'd be ashamed and just rescind it. Honolulu is laughing at these laws. O0
Makakilo is laughing just as hard.  :rofl:
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ren

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2018, 02:14:22 PM »
Surprised there's no stings like To Catch a Predator.
"So you came to buy fireworks? Why don't you have a seat over there..."
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XL iced_coffee

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2018, 02:35:01 PM »


I went to buy my 1 permit for $25 last week, the lady at the counter said the person before me bought 100 permits.




$2500 just to buy fireworks and plus the total cost of the fireworks, dayyymn, rather buy a new firearm  :D

ren

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2018, 10:24:28 PM »
It's 10:20 and my neighbors are still popping firecrackers after karaoke. I suppose they don't need to work but I still need to finish my paper :grrr: It's times like this I'd go for a ban. It all boils down to being mindful and not an asshole.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2018, 10:39:08 PM »
Police are now able to use video evidence to issue fireworks citations, but the person who recorded the video must be willing to testify in court.  That creates a situation where the videographer would open himself and his household up to retaliation from the neighbors.  Therefore, most are reluctant to report violators and provide needed evidence.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37170471/first-responders-quick-action-and-luck-to-thank-for-relatively-safe-if-noisy-new-year
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2018, 11:03:38 PM »
Police are now able to use video evidence to issue fireworks citations, but the person who recorded the video must be willing to testify in court.  That creates a situation where the videographer would open himself and his household up to retaliation from the neighbors.  Therefore, most are reluctant to report violators and provide needed evidence.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37170471/first-responders-quick-action-and-luck-to-thank-for-relatively-safe-if-noisy-new-year

and that's just one part of the problem.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2018, 01:22:06 AM »
and that's just one part of the problem.

It's the biggest problem on the "demand" side of the equation.  If no one helps the police identify the law breakers, there isn't much chance of them catching more than a few while in the act.

The other side, the "supply" side, needs to be better policed as well.  The report said a truck with $25K in illegal fireworks was stopped.  The people driving were released, and a felony investigation was opened. 

Just a drop in the bucket.

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A tally on the number of citations issued was not immediately available, but police Deputy Chief
John McCarthy said officers did cite two men who were making a delivery of illegal aerial fireworks
in a large U-Haul truck in Kaneohe.

The two were not arrested, but a felony investigation has been opened.

The value of the hundreds of pounds of illegal aerials in the truck was $25,000, police sources said.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Fireworks 12/31/17
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2018, 08:32:54 AM »
in my situation the people doing it "should know" better  O0
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