http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/12/25/breaking-news/suspect-in-ewa-beach-attempted-murder-identified/

Word on SSH is that this is the 2nd time the homeowners home was broken into.  2 masked men entered, and 1 was waiting in the car outside.

And that it wasn't his gun, but the robbers gun that was used against him.

This is also a gated community.

According to KSSK, the homeowner was detained by HPD, but released this morning with no charges so far.

HPD said the victim drove himself to a nearby medical facility, where he is in stable condition.

Heard about this on the radio this morning. 

As an aside, the guys on 98.5 were spewing so much misinformation about gun laws, particularly use of force when they were talking about this incident.  That's how that crap perpetuates.

I thought this was in Ewa Beach?

Well, anyway the news did a great job at making self defense look like a crime, while the poor "victim" (thieving violent criminal) look like a daisy. 

Heard about this on the radio this morning. 

As an aside, the guys on 98.5 were spewing so much misinformation about gun laws, particularly use of force when they were talking about this incident.  That's how that crap perpetuates.

Bunch of clowns. Do you need an education to be on the radio?

Bunch of clowns. Do you need an education to be on the radio?

greg hammer on krtr probably going off too
he likes to use the "I was a cop, and no one needs these types of firearms" a lot

F'um all.

Rarely listen to radio. Morning radio with the exception of Perry on KSSK is just a vocal rehash of mid 90s Clueless. Vocab is limited to "like" "honestly" "personally" and "OMGs"

Rarely listen to radio. Morning radio with the exception of Perry on KSSK is just a vocal rehash of mid 90s Clueless. Vocab is limited to "like" "honestly" "personally" and "OMGs"

I just like to have something on in the morning when i get ready. And 98.5 has good reception. Other stations are pretty crappy.

I rarely listen to KSSK. I used to listen for some local news, but got sick of Perry always adding his commentary.

greg hammer on krtr probably going off too
he likes to use the "I was a cop, and no one needs these types of firearms" a lot

One of the local radio hosts was into guns. I recall him bringing his family to SSF. They had a blast. I can’t remember his name now. Damn, getting old.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/12/25/breaking-news/suspect-in-ewa-beach-attempted-murder-identified/

Word on SSH is that this is the 2nd time the homeowners home was broken into.  2 masked men entered, and 1 was waiting in the car outside.

And that it wasn't his gun, but the robbers gun that was used against him.

This is also a gated community.

According to KSSK, the homeowner was detained by HPD, but released this morning with no charges so far.

interesting how it says that he was shot on the property, not in the house
yes, I know the house is on the property
just interesting how they worded it

SA totally twisted the story to make the homeowner look like a loon blasting someone that was just taking a shortcut across his lawn

media lost its mind
rightful homeowner gets branded as a criminal and burglar is the victim
1st Lady trims a tree and media said she is ordering its removal

KHON had more details on the 6:00 news tonight.  They said the "victim" was shot in the back, and asked a lawyer if that was bad for the homeowner.  He said it all depends on the threat the homeowner faced.  But residents have to be careful about worrying what the DA might think.  Residents have to decide in 2 seconds what they must do to protect themselves and their families. It's always better to be judged later by twelve than to be carried by six at your funeral.

Yes, I was shocked they found such a lawyer to side with the property owner.

media lost its mind
rightful homeowner gets branded as a criminal and burglar is the victim
1st Lady trims a tree and media said she is ordering its removal

"Orders Removal of Near-200-Year-Old Tree From White House" to be more precise.  Then later they say "specialists at the United States National Arboretum, which determined the magnolia tree must be removed. The tree is “completely dependent on artificial support,” the document read."   Complete flamebaiting.

And I cant believe those pricks at the SA called the burglar the "victim".

KHON had more details on the 6:00 news tonight.  They said the "victim" was shot in the back, and asked a lawyer if that was bad for the homeowner.  He said it all depends on the threat the homeowner faced.  But residents have to be careful about worrying what the DA might think.  Residents have to decide in 2 seconds what they must do to protect themselves and their families. It's always better to be judged later by twelve than to be carried by six at your funeral.

Yes, I was shocked they found such a lawyer to side with the property owner.

this is the kind of crap that emboldens these crumbs to play stupid games. We need to show these criminals don't f*ck with us. What I don't get is the PSAs that tell us to surrender our stuff to criminals when confronted. And these PSAs say that it is not worth it. Tell that shit to people who work hard for their families.
My friend had his home burglarized by a high school kid last year. The piece of shit took some cash and took a selfie with the stolen iPad. I posted his pic on this site. He just got a slap on his wrist. A couple weeks later after the dumb kid was arrested my same friend had all four tires slashed at his home. Coincidence? I told him be careful as there was a criminal on his property that had an edged weapon. He shrugged it off and didn't want to panic the wife.

The media trying to play the "guns are bad card", but all the comments support the homeowner and said they would have done the same. The people are speaking.

I think people are fed up with the state doing nothing. Robber gets released early, if not only getting probation. They know HPD only arrest, but its the state that lets them go. Multiple pages of arrest and the guy is still on the street. Etc...

Even hanabusas fb page, she posted how HR38 is bad. But 99% of the comments support the bill.

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Comments from "Unassailable":
"Protecting property is not enough to justify the use of force. You also cannot claim self-defense if they can retreat in complete safety." This is why even thinking of buying a gun for self-defense is a complete farce. Treat others with respect and hope for the best.

How do you treat a robber, burglar, murderer or rapist with respect?

Comments from "Unassailable":
"Protecting property is not enough to justify the use of force. You also cannot claim self-defense if they can retreat in complete safety." This is why even thinking of buying a gun for self-defense is a complete farce. Treat others with respect and hope for the best.

How do you treat a robber, burglar, murderer or rapist with respect?

You never saw or read Les Misérables?   

Media asks questions. Doesn't like the answers they get. Buries story.

I actually thought KHON's story was interesting.
They reported guy shot int the back, but then interviewed attorney who said split-second decisions can be argued multiple ways.
They interviewed neighbors who were supportive of the defense of the community and family.

http://khon2.com/2017/12/26/self-defense-ewa-beach-resident-shoots-man-suspected-of-trespassing-in-back/

We have little facts on this shooting, but KHON presented it as close to pro-2A as they could on this one I thought.
Actually aired an attorney saying "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6"
Wonder if Joe Moore is pro-2A?

(And remember HRA testified against strengthening Hawaii's Castle Doctrine just a session or 2 ago.)