Was able to spend time with a 19 with RMR this past weekend. Making me want to go for it. Will be a decent chunk of change, but really seeing a lot of positive potential.  Will surely be fun being able to try on my own for more than a few mags.

I was the same way. For all of the downsides of the RMR, I didn’t want to spend that much money on it. Since the type IIs have come out though, it’s not hard to find the originals going for $3-350. I briefly tried the Vortex offerings and the DPP. Now I wish that I had just gone right to the RMR. And while I like my Unity ATOM slide, I still prefer my other slide that was worked over by ATEi. Surprisingly I don’t typically have a hard time finding the dot. Every now and then I’ll miss it on the draw, but I picked it up much faster than I expected. My biggest problem with the dot is the same as with irons - I jump on the trigger before my sights are really on target. No sight system will fix that. I do find that it helps with trigger control. The dot makes it very obvious if you’re influencing the gun in any direction. It’s stupid easy to make hits at distance, and I don’t think I’m even much slower, like many claim, though I haven’t thoroughly tested that one. Ultimately though, it’s a work around for poor technique. I suck at focusing on my front sight so the dot makes up for that. Pros and cons, as always.

I was the same way. For all of the downsides of the RMR, I didn’t want to spend that much money on it. Since the type IIs have come out though, it’s not hard to find the originals going for $3-350. I briefly tried the Vortex offerings and the DPP. Now I wish that I had just gone right to the RMR. And while I like my Unity ATOM slide, I still prefer my other slide that was worked over by ATEi. Surprisingly I don’t typically have a hard time finding the dot. Every now and then I’ll miss it on the draw, but I picked it up much faster than I expected. My biggest problem with the dot is the same as with irons - I jump on the trigger before my sights are really on target. No sight system will fix that. I do find that it helps with trigger control. The dot makes it very obvious if you’re influencing the gun in any direction. It’s stupid easy to make hits at distance, and I don’t think I’m even much slower, like many claim, though I haven’t thoroughly tested that one. Ultimately though, it’s a work around for poor technique. I suck at focusing on my front sight so the dot makes up for that. Pros and cons, as always.

The part of picking up the dot on the draw is something I did notice initially and again this past weekend. I was able to pick it the dot quickly between shots. Or at least quicker or better than I remember in the past.

I hear what you are saying about work around for poor technique. I can see how if you shot with a dot for a while that your performance with fixed/regular sights would suffer. But same said for carbine with red dot. I rarely shoot carbine with irons, but I try to make it a point to do so regularly.

Never thought about the aspect of the dot showing errors in trigger manipulation, but I guess similar to using a SIRT, but you have your actually trigger and can see how the dot jumps when dry firing.

Your gun also has a comp, right?  With the custom slide, that’s some $$$. I’ll start with basic and see, but I was doing to research and there are tons of options for RMR slides, comped barrels, etc.

The part of picking up the dot on the draw is something I did notice initially and again this past weekend. I was able to pick it the dot quickly between shots. Or at least quicker or better than I remember in the past.

I hear what you are saying about work around for poor technique. I can see how if you shot with a dot for a while that your performance with fixed/regular sights would suffer. But same said for carbine with red dot. I rarely shoot carbine with irons, but I try to make it a point to do so regularly.

Never thought about the aspect of the dot showing errors in trigger manipulation, but I guess similar to using a SIRT, but you have your actually trigger and can see how the dot jumps when dry firing.

Your gun also has a comp, right?  With the custom slide, that’s some $$$. I’ll start with basic and see, but I was doing to research and there are tons of options for RMR slides, comped barrels, etc.

Yeah I have the KKM comp and barrel. I like it a lot, at first I wasn’t sure how useful it was but I can definitely feel a difference when shooting 5+ rounds in a string. Surprisingly I didn’t have any issues running the cheap 115gr stuff through my ATEi slide with comp, but I will have some issues with the ATOM slide and comp. I assume the latter must be a little heavier. Unfortunately it is quite a lot of money, and micro RDS are far from their big brothers that usually go on carbines. But, putting money aside, I think the pros outweigh the cons so then it’s just a matter of saving the money. Or building that credit card debt...

Yeah I have the KKM comp and barrel. I like it a lot, at first I wasn’t sure how useful it was but I can definitely feel a difference when shooting 5+ rounds in a string. Surprisingly I didn’t have any issues running the cheap 115gr stuff through my ATEi slide with comp, but I will have some issues with the ATOM slide and comp. I assume the latter must be a little heavier. Unfortunately it is quite a lot of money, and micro RDS are far from their big brothers that usually go on carbines. But, putting money aside, I think the pros outweigh the cons so then it’s just a matter of saving the money. Or building that credit card debt...

I've noticed many with KKM comp and barrels lately.  Never really looked into comped barrels, or really any aftermarket barrels for Glocks.  I considered an aftermarket barrel to go along with a complete 17 slide that I was going to get front serrations on, but in that case I just wanted a complete "upper" set as opposed to wanting to test out an aftermarket barrel. 

Speaking of cheap 115 gr stuff.  I've seen many with negative things to say about Rem UMC 115 gr, but over the past maybe 5-6 years, that's been my favorite bulk ammo for training and other plinking.  S&B is another one of my favorites, but harder to find and usually more expensive than the UMC stuff. 

Yeah.  I have enough $$$ for the MOS and the dot.  Just a matter of setting it aside for that purpose as opposed to other expenses.  That and rapback. . . 

I don’t look too hard for Ammo but haven’t been impressed by the UMC stuff. I just buy it because it’s usually cheapest. When I get back to the mainland it’ll be easier to feed it straight 124gr like Lawman. Barrels seem to be hit or miss. Everyone is making a Glock barrel nowadays but based off the studies I’ve seen, there are only a few that will outshoot the stock Glock barrel. The KKM didn’t always perform the best, but it was among the best in every test and they have a reputation for great barrels in other platforms so I figured I might as well stick with the RS spec, despite the lead time. I don’t have personal experience with the MOS, but have heard of it loosening over a few hundred rounds. And it cowitnesses weird with the RMR. YMMV, but after almost an entire year of going back and forth with hands on the ATOM slide, my milled ATEi slide, the Venom, Viper, Delta Point Pro, and the RMR, I wish I had just done the RMR and ATEi combo from the start. Even with the capability of the ATOM slide, the true Roland Special has been my favorite. But maybe that will change when if a new wonder dot gets dropped at shot. Who knows.

FYI for those following the thread, I'm reposting my ATOM slide for sale soon.

Was looking into ATEi the other day.

They're the gold standard, but not cheap and the turn around time will take at least a month. Jagerworks apparently does good work for less, but I didn't like their serrations. Either way, they're only worth it if you know which optic you like. I didn't, so the Atom slide made sense.

Currently have my slide off at Primary Machine. They have a good reputation as far as optic cuts as well.  Will let you know when I get it back.  They had a 20% off Christmas sale that I jumped at and have decent off sale pricing as well

Took first step to the dark side and ordered a Glock RMR 17 slide. Will have the complete slide with everything except the RMR. Will likely have to wait a little bit for the RMR funds. Thinking the 3.25 MOA Type 2.