Trump (Read 566537 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1620 on: June 07, 2019, 09:53:02 AM »
Florida woman who stabbed herself told police she was 'tired of living in Trump's country'

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-woman-stabs-herself-tired-donald-trump-100050004.html?ncid=facebook_yfsocialfa_wje3x23a50w&utm_content=bufferfcde1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=yahoofinance

I mean seriously?!?!  How can people not see this as something wrong. . .

Should see the comments on FB supporting this looney.

I guess she didn't want to go full "human torch" like some of the other deranged anti-Trumpers have?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1621 on: June 07, 2019, 11:23:14 AM »
So NYPD chief commits suicide a month before his retirement and another NY detective also commits suicide the next day.

Nothin to see here #tinfoil #SethRich

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1622 on: June 12, 2019, 09:54:38 AM »
Funny how the fake news said it was a "blank document" .  Then they got called out on it and now they're title reads he was waving a "secret" document around for all to see.  I can honestly still believe if he had the cure for cancer in his pocket, the fake news and DNC headlines would be "Trump causes thousands of doctors/nurses to be out of a job".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-waved-alleged-apos-secret-121355584.html

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1623 on: June 13, 2019, 10:55:10 AM »
Sarah the beast huckabee sanders is leaving at the end of the month.

I wonder whos gonna be the next press secretary? I liked that bolohead guy. He answers smartass fake news questions with fire.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1624 on: June 13, 2019, 11:03:48 AM »
Florida woman who stabbed herself told police she was 'tired of living in Trump's country'

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-woman-stabs-herself-tired-donald-trump-100050004.html?ncid=facebook_yfsocialfa_wje3x23a50w&utm_content=bufferfcde1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=yahoofinance

I mean seriously?!?!  How can people not see this as something wrong. . .

Should see the comments on FB supporting this looney.

FB, Twitter and Google are nothing more than Liberal, Radical, Left-wing emersion chambers.  I've seen stats that 80% of the comments come from just 10% of the members.  Basically, the whack jobs are on there making comments to drive the narratives in their desired direction.  Many are paid commenters.  I became more active on Twitter to keep up with Trump's Tweets after closing down my FB account.  You can't even pretend to comment on any of them.  No matter what he posts, you see the same bot-generated comments over and over within seconds of the Tweet being created.

That's not dialogue.  It's a constant attack by people with a mission:  tear down and obstruct.

If people are supporting the stabbing whack job, it's because they see a chance to spin it for their cause.  Doesn't mean that's what they really believe.

I deleted my Twitter account over a month ago.  Social media?  More like anti-social media.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1625 on: June 13, 2019, 11:27:59 AM »
FB, Twitter and Google are nothing more than Liberal, Radical, Left-wing emersion chambers.  I've seen stats that 80% of the comments come from just 10% of the members.  Basically, the whack jobs are on there making comments to drive the narratives in their desired direction.  Many are paid commenters.  I became more active on Twitter to keep up with Trump's Tweets after closing down my FB account.  You can't even pretend to comment on any of them.  No matter what he posts, you see the same bot-generated comments over and over within seconds of the Tweet being created.

That's not dialogue.  It's a constant attack by people with a mission:  tear down and obstruct.

If people are supporting the stabbing whack job, it's because they see a chance to spin it for their cause.  Doesn't mean that's what they really believe.

I deleted my Twitter account over a month ago.  Social media?  More like anti-social media.

That's why I find it very hard to believe that Russia influenced FB to vote for Trump.  Every ad or like generated post I saw was anti Trump/pro Hillary.  And I go on FB multiple times a day.

But this also begins the question, when someone has a monopoly on something and they regulate free speech, can the government step in?  We all know that the constitution is so the government can't regulate your 1A, but private entities can.  I know Google is being looked into right now.

ren

Re: Trump
« Reply #1626 on: June 13, 2019, 02:21:43 PM »
That's why I find it very hard to believe that Russia influenced FB to vote for Trump.  Every ad or like generated post I saw was anti Trump/pro Hillary.  And I go on FB multiple times a day.

But this also begins the question, when someone has a monopoly on something and they regulate free speech, can the government step in?  We all know that the constitution is so the government can't regulate your 1A, but private entities can.  I know Google is being looked into right now.

Why would Russia endorse a nationalist like Trump instead of a weaker candidate such as Hillary? Makes no sense. A candidate who wanted to increase defense spending and bolster the US military. Some of my friends echo the same thing and I ask them what would Russian gain?  He's obviously not pushing a Russian agenda.
On another note, if Trump was a racist Why did he do something the Obama Admin did not do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Marie_Johnson
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1627 on: June 13, 2019, 02:28:28 PM »
That's why I find it very hard to believe that Russia influenced FB to vote for Trump.  Every ad or like generated post I saw was anti Trump/pro Hillary.  And I go on FB multiple times a day.

But this also begins the question, when someone has a monopoly on something and they regulate free speech, can the government step in?  We all know that the constitution is so the government can't regulate your 1A, but private entities can.  I know Google is being looked into right now.

Social Media Tech Giants are another instance of technology growing faster than gov't can keep up.  Gov't, by definition, is reactionary in their thinking.  They have to identify problems (real or imagined) before they can pretend to solve them.

Tech companies like Google and FB have the best of both legislative worlds.  They pretend to be "platforms", affording them protection against civil and criminal liability for whatever is posted by members.  On the flip-side, they behave as "publishers" or editors, censoring so-called hate speech, political speech they disagree with, non-PC speech and other types of expression they find offensive.

There are a couple of issues going on.  (1) poorly-defined rules of conduct, (2) blatant bias in who gets suspended/censored/banned (unequal application of their ambiguous standards), (3) they are private corporate entities, so the 1A is not applicable -- The Bill of Rights limits what Gov't can do, not private firms, and (4) things that were not just acceptable, but actually APPROVED for posting in the past have now been flagged for removal.   :wtf:

Another issue is the obvious barrier to competition.  Until FB and YT face a "My Space" situation where everyone flocks to an alternative platform, they are the only games in town.  They destroyed their competition by losing money and offering content creators the ability to make money if they use these platforms exclusively.  Now that they've grow with the help of independent creators, platforms are banning those same people based on big media (VOX, NBC, etc.) campaigns to take them down.

Arbitrary and capricious doesn't quite capture the current business model of the big social media platforms.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1628 on: June 13, 2019, 02:31:08 PM »
Why would Russia endorse a nationalist like Trump instead of a weaker candidate such as Hillary? Makes no sense. A candidate who wanted to increase defense spending and bolster the US military. Some of my friends echo the same thing and I ask them what would Russian gain?  He's obviously not pushing a Russian agenda.
On another note, if Trump was a racist Why did he do something the Obama Admin did not do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Marie_Johnson

Logic and reasoning is futile.  Some actually believe Trump's campaign would hire Russians to hack the DNC and spend money on FB rather than hire his own in-house group of tech wizards.  It's too ridiculous, but it's all they had, since Trump did NOTHING WRONG in terns of influencing the election.  (Ref: Mueller report).
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Trump
« Reply #1629 on: June 13, 2019, 06:15:57 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/06/14/ige-other-governors-meet-with-trump-talk-workforce-development/


By Ellie Nakamoto-White | June 13, 2019 at 6:08 PM HST - Updated June 13 at 6:08 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - Gov. David Ige, along with seven other governors, met with President Donald Trump at the White House on Thursday to discuss workforce development.
The conversation focused on everything from child care to paid family leave.
“For the first time in our country, we have more job vacancies than we have qualified people to fill them," said Gov. David Ige, in a news release. “Hawaii is among the states that are working to prepare the workforce for those jobs – expanding paid internships and apprenticeship programs.”


versus
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2018/12/02/gov-ige-be-sworn-second-term-monday-green-take-lt-gov-role/


Ige has been a vocal critic of President Trump, and Trump in turn has publicly seethed over Hawaii’s legal challenges to several White House initiatives.
But it is unusual for a governor to use an inaugural speech — typically a preview for the State of the State address — to criticize a sitting president.
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1630 on: June 13, 2019, 09:21:52 PM »
Why would Russia endorse a nationalist like Trump instead of a weaker candidate such as Hillary? Makes no sense. A candidate who wanted to increase defense spending and bolster the US military. Some of my friends echo the same thing and I ask them what would Russian gain?  He's obviously not pushing a Russian agenda.
On another note, if Trump was a racist Why did he do something the Obama Admin did not do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Marie_Johnson

Maybe Russia thought Trump more easy to manipulate?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1631 on: June 13, 2019, 09:42:07 PM »
Maybe Russia thought Trump more easy to manipulate?

Maybe the Russians are fucking stupid.

Based on your "logic," Trump would be more amiable toward them
than the person running the foundation that received millions in "donations" from Russian businesses AND
who's married to the ex-President the Russians paid over half a million bucks to for ONE speaking engagement.

Yeah.  That's what the Russians did.  They paid one candidate millions over several years, then decided her opponent would be more malleable.   :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1632 on: June 13, 2019, 10:15:00 PM »
Maybe the Russians are fucking stupid.

Based on your "logic," Trump would be more amiable toward them
than the person running the foundation that received millions in "donations" from Russian businesses AND
who's married to the ex-President the Russians paid over half a million bucks to for ONE speaking engagement.

Yeah.  That's what the Russians did.  They paid one candidate millions over several years, then decided her opponent would be more malleable.   :rofl: :rofl:

Trump sounds infatuated with Putin.

What makes you so sure that Russia wasn't trying to play both sides?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1633 on: June 13, 2019, 10:27:04 PM »
Trump sounds infatuated with Putin.

What makes you so sure that Russia wasn't trying to play both sides?

Did you miss the memo?

No collusion.

You have no basis for your "hypothesis".    :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1634 on: June 13, 2019, 10:31:05 PM »
Trump sounds infatuated with Putin.

What makes you so sure that Russia wasn't trying to play both sides?

The Russian hackers targeted both political camps with their FB ads.  They also tried to hack the Republican National Committee, but were unsuccessful.  Only the Dems were lame enough to allow their servers and emails to be accessed.

Quote
"What neither side could have known was that Russian trolls were encouraging both sides to battle in the
streets," Sen. Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said during Wednesday's hearing.

"Ironically, one person who attended stated, 'The Heart of Texas promoted this event, but we didn't see
one of them,'" Burr added.

Later in the day, the House Intelligence Committee also released a number of ads it has reviewed, which
targeted conservative and liberal groups; click below to see them.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/357120/here-are-the-russia-linked-facebook-ads
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1635 on: June 14, 2019, 09:25:52 AM »
Maybe Russia thought Trump more easy to manipulate?

Then that means not 1 Russian watched the apprentice or ever heard of how Trump runs his companies.  And remember, he has been in the public eye for 30 years, so it's not like he was some no namer who there is no intel on.  Everyone  knows that Trump is the guy of guy who says "do your job, or you're fired".  And finds someone who will get the job done.

Mdotweber

Re: Trump
« Reply #1636 on: June 14, 2019, 09:44:15 AM »
Are we really still on this "meh Russia" crap, that broke ass country is nothing but the patsy in this whole situation! So we know they TRIED to sew discord in our elections, how about the other foreign governments (and our own) that we have solid proof that they meddled in our process. Im more concerned with the globalist UN and EU meddling. These last two years have solidified my dustrust in our "Uniparty" government, this is all slight of hand BS!
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1637 on: June 14, 2019, 10:42:18 AM »
Are we really still on this "meh Russia" crap, that broke ass country is nothing but the patsy in this whole situation! So we know they TRIED to sew discord in our elections, how about the other foreign governments (and our own) that we have solid proof that they meddled in our process. Im more concerned with the globalist UN and EU meddling. These last two years have solidified my dustrust in our "Uniparty" government, this is all slight of hand BS!

Liberals have no narrative to push to try and impeach Trump other than the Russia story.  Without impeachment, it's all but certain Trump will be reelected.

Now they want to claim obstruction after a 2 1/2 year Special Counsel investigation was ALLOWED TO BE COMPLETED.  The White House cooperated with Mueller to include:

-- 675:  Number of days from Mueller's appointment on May 17, 2017, as Special Counsel until the report was received by AG Barr.

-- 34: people indicted as a result of Mueller's investigation, including Russian nationals.  Several former Trump aides and advisors were indicted on charges that are unrelated to any Russia collusion or election interference.

-- 19: lawyers who were employed by the special counsel's office.

-- 40:  Estimated number of FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants and other staff that assisted with the investigation.

-- Over 2,800 subpoenas issued by the Special Counsel's office -- an average of at least four per day.

-- About 500 search warrants executed.

-- Over 230 orders for communication records executed.

-- 50 authorized orders for the use of pen registers, a tool that lets the government know who someone is communicating with and when, but not what they said.

-- 13 evidence requests to foreign governments.

-- 500 witnesses interviewed.

-- $25 million in posted costs as of February 2019.


Yeah.  Some obstruction!  Not once did Trump claim executive privilege or refuse to allow anyone to testify.  Over a million documents were handed over.

As I've said before, if he obstructed, he didn't do a very good job.  The last president to obstruct Congress and get impeached was President Slicky Willy Clinton.  He actually lied under oath and was charged with obstruction and perjury.

The Democrats in Congress who are still beating this dead horse know it's the only hope they have of closing the gap in the 2020 elections.  I think people are sick and tired of hearing about this proven hoax of an investigation.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1638 on: June 14, 2019, 11:32:08 AM »
What's worst is the stupid Trump haters who believe the BS the DNC is telling. 

My coworkers has TDS.  When Sarah announced she's leaving her response "Well I guess she couldn't handle working for that liar".  I didn't want to talk to a stupid person.  But after 3 years, I wouldn't call it not handling. 1 week or a few days, then yes.  But not 3 years.

robtmc

Re: Trump
« Reply #1639 on: June 14, 2019, 11:48:26 AM »
Did you miss the memo?

No collusion.
Quite clear old fisheye is being paid to post here.  There is one just like that on a local newsrag comment site, replies often to EVEY post by a conservative, day fter day.

Seems the DNC has set them up to disrupt commentary they dislike.